dude, was that YOU??? Did you get a shiny new bike AGAIN???
WOW, all that on a fireman's salary.
Are you fucking kidding me/?
Your big claim to fame is that you are a thug and a fireman (not mutually exclusive)
AND so ... when you threatened me ON VIDEOTAPE with the fireman's nephew .. and said.. 'you don't KNOW WHO I AM' and I said NO, nor do I CARE .. that THIS and perhaps a big powerful family connection are your CLAIM TO FAME???
Then the stalking at the airport and such?
Which ties you to the guy threatening the airplane?
I'm seriously wondering if that was you I mean it WAS dark and you were sitting down and this guy looked a little blonder.
Please. Back the fuck up off me. you don't know who I AM either. Obviously.
I try to live a simple life.
Don't let the handshake and the smile foolya.
anyway ..................
Wow. I'm disappointed twice in one day.
And was that some street theater intimidation you just played with smellerville???
stacks so high i can't see over em.
you all need to face this: you are not going to push me into giving you my shit.
I am a creative person.
You'll see.
You're kinda pretty.
Have you ever considered being anything OTHER than an unmitigated asshole who apparently only has the balls to THREATEN CHILDREN>>
I see that all through the ranks.
Listen, that kinda reminds me of the old adage .... you know how you intimidate children to get to the parents? How low and utterly without class and/or simple BALLS that is.
That balls thing. When you get them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.
Anytime you're ready would be a good time to realize your balls (not yours 29068p) but the biker's. are in the clencher. And I'm about to start pulling them around. Your body will at least follow because I'm dragging your ass towards florida state. You and birdman.
He's tiring.
And, he's in MY SPOT.
you see?
Tuesday, December 23, 2008
Monday, December 22, 2008
Sunday, December 21, 2008
all that including the siren
oh man ... videotape. My friend was RIGHT. AV people RULE THE WORLD.
Here's some reading for you.
I think this is all open records law and such.
oh my god i feel surrounded.
so harassed.
so hopeless.
so ... RICH. Yeah, that's IT. RICH.
Here's some reading for you.
I think this is all open records law and such.
oh my god i feel surrounded.
so harassed.
so hopeless.
so ... RICH. Yeah, that's IT. RICH.
Friday, December 19, 2008
no image available ...
... of the latest portly thug PARAMURDED MEDIC FIREMAN RANDOMLY SHOOTING AROUND LOWLY CIVILIANS
We NEED to do something about that.
Incidentally, PIGS. It's getting to be a bit of an add-on feature every day at say ... one thirtyish you interfere with my connectivity??
Tell me when you DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD making your pig beeps while I'm on the phone with former GAO employees witnessing same are you ARMED?????
I bet you are.
I mean ... it's really starting to seem that you are CRIMINALS FIRST, THUGS SECOND, firemen somewhere in there and human beings?? DEAD LAST.
Pun intended. Lots of dead people around you and on your secret properties. ohhhh I DO love the st pete times.
GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES.
Enjoy driving and beeping and siren'ing while you still can ..
Like I said ... smarter people would have backed it up, fire scumbers.
Anyway ...
I think it's PAST TIME to do something about protecting the identities of those who are soooo helpful to their fellow man.
WHY should this yahoo SHOOTING MURDER MEDIC FIREMAN get his image protected when no one else does?????????????????
That is INCORRECT.
I am going to start a collidge for yall
see below.
hell with all that poopy old fire science stuff.
you don't nEED ANY OF THAT... for god's sake.
We NEED to do something about that.
Incidentally, PIGS. It's getting to be a bit of an add-on feature every day at say ... one thirtyish you interfere with my connectivity??
Tell me when you DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD making your pig beeps while I'm on the phone with former GAO employees witnessing same are you ARMED?????
I bet you are.
I mean ... it's really starting to seem that you are CRIMINALS FIRST, THUGS SECOND, firemen somewhere in there and human beings?? DEAD LAST.
Pun intended. Lots of dead people around you and on your secret properties. ohhhh I DO love the st pete times.
GO AND FUCK YOURSELVES.
Enjoy driving and beeping and siren'ing while you still can ..
Like I said ... smarter people would have backed it up, fire scumbers.
Anyway ...
I think it's PAST TIME to do something about protecting the identities of those who are soooo helpful to their fellow man.
WHY should this yahoo SHOOTING MURDER MEDIC FIREMAN get his image protected when no one else does?????????????????
That is INCORRECT.
I am going to start a collidge for yall
see below.
hell with all that poopy old fire science stuff.
you don't nEED ANY OF THAT... for god's sake.
Thursday, December 18, 2008
awwwwwwwwwww one of yer own
Fellas and ummm 'gals' .... one of yer own Is THIS why you kinda (but not really with the ummm top dog support and allllllll) laid low today??
L M A O>>>
ride em COWBOY. How long before we have yall rootin tootin down the interstate with just chaps on?? ummm no thanks.
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Polk Paramedic Accused Of Firing Gun While Driving
By LISA A. DAVIS The Tampa Tribune
Published: December 18, 2008
DADE CITY - A Polk County paramedic was arrested Wednesday afternoon by Pasco County deputies, accused of shooting his gun while driving his truck.
Jeffrey Allan Morgan, 33, of Dade City, was driving his 2004 GMC Sierra on Curley Road about 12:15 p.m. when witnesses saw him firing a handgun, a sheriff's office report states. A deputy stopped the truck at State Road 54 near Bruce B. Downs Boulevard in Wesley Chapel.
Morgan told the deputy he was shooting at objects as he passed them but stopped shooting when he saw cars behind him, a report states.
He was arrested on a felony charge of discharging a firearm in public from a moving vehicle. He was released from the Land O' Lakes Jail on Wednesday after posting $10,000 bail.
Polk Fire Chief David Cash said today that Morgan, who has been with the department since 2002 and also is a driver engineer, had been out of work for several days with a medical issue.
The department will determine whether the criminal case merits disciplinary action.
"At this moment, he's still a member with good standing," Cash said.
Reporter Lisa A. Davis can be reached at (727) 815-1083.
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Posted by ( Spanish_Inquisition ) on 12/18/2008 at 03:57 pm.
Since Mr. Morgan was out with a medical condition, I looked up "just plumb stupid" in Taber's Medical Dictionary....
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Posted by ( nubian4534 ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:06 pm.
maybe work was slow
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Posted by ( JonSimms ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:17 pm.
I wonder if alcohol was involved.
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Posted by ( Gladiator ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:37 pm.
He had his bag of arrogance with him.Get you into trouble every time. Note to fire dept employees. Your not above the law!
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Posted by ( BrianA ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:43 pm.
In the ghetoooooh ! Wesley Chapel REPRESENT! Polk County! Holla if ya hear me! Yo where Westchase at? Where my St. Pete dawgs?? Hollaaaa!
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Posted by ( CLD ) on 12/18/2008 at 05:19 pm.
What a f'n Genius
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Posted by ( mr_hanky ) on 12/18/2008 at 05:20 pm.
Spanish, what's the ICD-9 code for "idiot"?
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Posted by ( crazylegs ) on 12/18/2008 at 05:31 pm.
I went to high school with this guy and you would never expect him to do something this stupid. He was driving down a road in the middle of nowhere but he should have been smarter than that.
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Posted by ( Yankeejibautodelete ) on 12/18/2008 at 06:41 pm.
Woo Hoo!! Look at me. Ima cowboy!
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Posted by ( Reality ) on 12/18/2008 at 07:20 pm.
Was the "medical issue" this guy was out on called mental insanity?
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Posted by ( notfastenough ) on 12/18/2008 at 08:14 pm.
Just the guy you want taking you to the hospital....
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/18/2008 at 09:17 pm.
yeah why would they fire him?? He's PERFECT. say anything. do anything. has a gun. and a driver's license.good to go.Maybe even a GED.Awesome, Jeff.Click. Thank you.
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L M A O>>>
ride em COWBOY. How long before we have yall rootin tootin down the interstate with just chaps on?? ummm no thanks.
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Polk Paramedic Accused Of Firing Gun While Driving
By LISA A. DAVIS The Tampa Tribune
Published: December 18, 2008
DADE CITY - A Polk County paramedic was arrested Wednesday afternoon by Pasco County deputies, accused of shooting his gun while driving his truck.
Jeffrey Allan Morgan, 33, of Dade City, was driving his 2004 GMC Sierra on Curley Road about 12:15 p.m. when witnesses saw him firing a handgun, a sheriff's office report states. A deputy stopped the truck at State Road 54 near Bruce B. Downs Boulevard in Wesley Chapel.
Morgan told the deputy he was shooting at objects as he passed them but stopped shooting when he saw cars behind him, a report states.
He was arrested on a felony charge of discharging a firearm in public from a moving vehicle. He was released from the Land O' Lakes Jail on Wednesday after posting $10,000 bail.
Polk Fire Chief David Cash said today that Morgan, who has been with the department since 2002 and also is a driver engineer, had been out of work for several days with a medical issue.
The department will determine whether the criminal case merits disciplinary action.
"At this moment, he's still a member with good standing," Cash said.
Reporter Lisa A. Davis can be reached at (727) 815-1083.
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Posted by ( Spanish_Inquisition ) on 12/18/2008 at 03:57 pm.
Since Mr. Morgan was out with a medical condition, I looked up "just plumb stupid" in Taber's Medical Dictionary....
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Posted by ( nubian4534 ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:06 pm.
maybe work was slow
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Posted by ( JonSimms ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:17 pm.
I wonder if alcohol was involved.
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Posted by ( Gladiator ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:37 pm.
He had his bag of arrogance with him.Get you into trouble every time. Note to fire dept employees. Your not above the law!
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Posted by ( BrianA ) on 12/18/2008 at 04:43 pm.
In the ghetoooooh ! Wesley Chapel REPRESENT! Polk County! Holla if ya hear me! Yo where Westchase at? Where my St. Pete dawgs?? Hollaaaa!
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Posted by ( CLD ) on 12/18/2008 at 05:19 pm.
What a f'n Genius
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Posted by ( mr_hanky ) on 12/18/2008 at 05:20 pm.
Spanish, what's the ICD-9 code for "idiot"?
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Posted by ( crazylegs ) on 12/18/2008 at 05:31 pm.
I went to high school with this guy and you would never expect him to do something this stupid. He was driving down a road in the middle of nowhere but he should have been smarter than that.
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Posted by ( Yankeejibautodelete ) on 12/18/2008 at 06:41 pm.
Woo Hoo!! Look at me. Ima cowboy!
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Posted by ( Reality ) on 12/18/2008 at 07:20 pm.
Was the "medical issue" this guy was out on called mental insanity?
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Posted by ( notfastenough ) on 12/18/2008 at 08:14 pm.
Just the guy you want taking you to the hospital....
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/18/2008 at 09:17 pm.
yeah why would they fire him?? He's PERFECT. say anything. do anything. has a gun. and a driver's license.good to go.Maybe even a GED.Awesome, Jeff.Click. Thank you.
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By BAIRD HELGESON
bhelgeson@tampatrib.com
Published: December 13, 2008
Updated: 12:56 am
TAMPA - Lowry Park Zoo's embattled president should repay the attraction at least $202,000 for animals and equipment he has taken from the complex, according to preliminary results from a city audit released Friday.
The inquiry revealed that the zoo's president and chief executive officer, Lex Salisbury, routinely took zoo animals, equipment and supplies for his private ranch and for a separate business venture. It says he overcharged the zoo when selling his animals but paid below market value when he bought.
In one instance, he acquired a used Mercedes safari truck the zoo had recently bought and refurbished. In return, he gave the zoo a used lawnmower and $3,433.
The lack of documentation means Salisbury could owe much more, said Santiago Corrada, the city's representative on the zoo board.
"There are some serious issues that need to be looked at by law enforcement," said Corrada, the city's administrator of neighborhood services. "These issues were systemic in all areas of the zoo."
Tampa Mayor Pam Iorio said she thinks the zoo's board must fire Salisbury when it convenes an emergency meeting next week to review the audit's findings.
"There has got to be a change in leadership as soon as possible," she said. "I trust the board will do the right thing."
As of late Friday, Tampa police said they had not launched an investigation into the zoo's chief, and the mayor had not asked the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate, according to FDLE spokeswoman Trena Reddick.
It appears the zoo can terminate Salisbury's employment without any severance pay.
Salisbury's letter of employment expired in January 2006.
Along with his salary, Salisbury receives the use of a Range Rover, which cost up to $93,325, and two zoo-paid trips each year for his wife, one domestic and one international.
Iorio launched the audit after The Tampa Tribune reported that Salisbury had taken zoo animals and resources to help build Safari Wild, a private exotic-animal park he co-owns and plans to open in Polk County. The audit confirmed the incidents reported in the Tribune's investigation and uncovered several others.
The mayor said she was shocked to learn how deeply Salisbury had co-mingled zoo and personal businesses. "I couldn't believe it," she said.
Salisbury, the city auditors wrote, "seems unable to differentiate between his role as CEO of the zoo and the role he plays with his business and his ranch and fails to acknowledge the improprieties even after the results of the audit."
Salisbury often brought his own animals to the zoo for treatment and care, which created added burden for an overtaxed staff, the audit says.
At the same time, Salisbury created a culture in which zoo employees feared they would be fired if they didn't help with his private Polk County venture. Many were so fearful that they were reluctant to speak with city auditors.
Salisbury, who is on paid leave from the $339,000-a-year zoo job, could not be reached for comment. He has said he never improperly profited from his 21-year connection to the zoo.
When the appearance of conflict of interest began to make headlines, zoo board member Bob Merritt told the Tribune the board had reviewed all transactions with Safari Wild and found nothing improper.
Merritt didn't respond to messages seeking comment late Friday.
Instead, Merritt, now board chairman, said in a statement that the zoo has already made significant changes to beef up oversight of the attraction. These include committees to oversee audits, governance and compensation.
"The board is keenly aware that whatever actions we take now must continue to focus on restoring confidence in the integrity of zoo management," Merritt said in the statement.
The most expensive conflict auditors found involved $150,709 in structures the zoo built on the Safari Wild property. The zoo built a horse barn, monkey cages and a shade structure on the property where Salisbury and his business partner plan to run African-style safari tours for paid visitors.
The work was done as part of a now-voided agreement between Salisbury and board chairman Fassil Gabremariam, who resigned from the board after concerns arose about Salisbury's dealings.
When the Tribune first reported about the barns, Salisbury said they were meant to be temporary until the zoo could find some land where exhibit animals could get a break from life on display.
The auditors found the buildings to be substantial, with concrete foundations.
"It would be extremely difficult for those structures to be relocated," said Corrada, the city's board member.
Many of the issues raised in the audit involve animals, particularly species that could be big draws at Salisbury's exotic-animal park.
In some cases, the zoo would order animals it didn't have space for, then ship them to Safari Wild or Salisbury's ranch in Dade City.
In one such case, Safari Wild joined Lowry Park Zoo and several other attractions during early 2007 to import rare birds. Then Salisbury told the zoo's director of collections that Safari Wild could not afford its share of the order, which came to $44,975
Since the birds were already shipped and quarantined in Miami, the zoo paid for Safari Wild's birds. Eleven of the 18 birds went to Safari Wild at no cost to Salisbury.
All told, Salisbury recorded 278 animal transactions with the zoo, many of which raised questions for the auditors.
In April 2004, Salisbury gave the zoo two zebras for a $10,000 credit. One year later, he bought two zebras from the zoo for $2,000.
On the same day, he bought an African antelope known as a bongo for $2,000. Four months later, he gave the zoo a bongo for an $8,500 credit.
When questioned about the animal trading, Salisbury told auditors that the ranges in prices were due to fluctuating values on the open market.
As a result of Salisbury's animal dealing, the Association of Zoos and Aquariums temporarily revoked the accreditation of the zoo, Salisbury and Larry Killmar, the zoo's director of collections.
The suspension means Lowry Park can't borrow animals from other accredited zoos to enhance its exhibits.
The city owns the zoo land and animals. Part of the lease agreement with the Lowry Park Zoological Society stipulates that it meet the zoo association's standards.
The zoo should take "any and all steps necessary" to restore its accreditation, the audit concludes.
Reporter Josh Poltilove contributed to this report. Reporter Baird Helgeson can be reached at (813) 259-7668.
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Posted by ( ad ) on 12/13/2008 at 08:26 am.
The Zoo Board will meet when it gets around to it.If this were a "Moral" issue, the "Christians" of Tampa would be on this and the Church's would be preaching about it and the guy would be branded and thrashed and gone in a day. But, there is no sexual part of this or any innuendo so far, so it is relatively unimportant. It has to have SEX involved to get them excited enough to do something public. Maybe there is a gay zebra they can bring out.
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Posted by ( Dave ) on 12/13/2008 at 08:52 am.
Where was the OVERSIGHT on this ZOO? Who else is robbing the city blind?
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Posted by ( Cleaner51 ) on 12/13/2008 at 12:14 pm.
$339k/yr + perks + comp pkg., and he still has to steal from us??? This is what's wrong with our society!! Unmitigated GREED!!! It must stop!!!
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Posted by ( MakeADifference ) on 12/13/2008 at 12:54 pm.
I had tried unsuccessfully to work with Lex, through his vet, Dr. Murray, to give a Persian leopard there an appropriate home. When the leopard became too old and "ugly" to be out on exhibit, the cat was relegated to a night house there. You should ask to see the cats' night houses. It is nothing more than a concrete closet and that is where zoo cats spend most of their time. They are only outside during visiting hours and often they are rotated so that they only see daylight once every few days. We had a 1200 square foot enclosure, with an air conditioned den, and were willing to take the cat and give him a decent home. Lex refused because he didn't want the public to percieve us as having rescued a cat from him. His concern with his own ego was more important than giving the leopard a decent place to live. According to the cat's keepers, they tried to rotate him out into the FL Panther exibit during the night, so that he wasn't locked up all the time, but he hated being locked inside so much that they couldn't even starve him into coming inside, so they quit allowing him out at all. I believe the cat has since died. We tried for several years to get the zoo to let him come here, to no avail. It is an ugly business and if people could see what happens behind the scenes in zoos (as Baird's continued coverage is now showing) they would not support this abusive industry. I think they would be smart to turn it into a rescue zoo where no breeding is done and the only way animals come in the door is if they have to be rescued. Zoos are an outdated institution and they suffer financially because the public isn't stupid. Anyone can see how little zoos are really doing for animals in the wild and anyone can see that wild animals don't belong in cages. Science has brought us out of the dark ages and we now know that animals can experience many of the same kinds of emotions as people can.
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Posted by ( Inca59 ) on 12/13/2008 at 08:08 pm.
I have met Lex, at least casually. This guy has the largest ego you could imagine. He views animals as "commodities" and nothing more. I personally witnessed him bragging about killing the tiger that escape from its enclosure ... almost as if he was on a safari hunt ... big man. I felt like laying him out on the spot because of the arrogance he displayed. He is the worst of "public" officials. His salary is absurd. His benefits are ridiculous. If the city and state does not pursue this man to the end including criminal charges (how could you view it as anything but criminal), then shame on them as they simply will endorse more bad behavior by these worthless public officials. No matter what we are reading here, you know it is even worse than that. I've never really wished for bad things to come to another person, but this guy deserves the full brunt of public humiliation, political lambasting and any criminal charges that can be executed by the most liberal interpretations of state and federal laws. He should be in a cage for a while, it would suit him just perfectly.
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/13/2008 at 10:52 pm.
i got that from him, too. I have to wonder what lit a fire under pam, finally other than her NEED to be on ANOTHER board. BUT, the thing is it's a good thing lex wasn't a Tampa firefighter or cop or IAD or detective out stalking citizens or this would have been left to go on for YEARS. YEARS.Poor cat. That's a sickening story. People DO see what goes on at the zoo. We're not blind.
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By BAIRD HELGESON
bhelgeson@tampatrib.com
Published: December 13, 2008
Updated: 12:56 am
TAMPA - Lowry Park Zoo's embattled president should repay the attraction at least $202,000 for animals and equipment he has taken from the complex, according to preliminary results from a city audit released Friday.
The inquiry revealed that the zoo's president and chief executive officer, Lex Salisbury, routinely took zoo animals, equipment and supplies for his private ranch and for a separate business venture. It says he overcharged the zoo when selling his animals but paid below market value when he bought.
In one instance, he acquired a used Mercedes safari truck the zoo had recently bought and refurbished. In return, he gave the zoo a used lawnmower and $3,433.
The lack of documentation means Salisbury could owe much more, said Santiago Corrada, the city's representative on the zoo board.
"There are some serious issues that need to be looked at by law enforcement," said Corrada, the city's administrator of neighborhood services. "These issues were systemic in all areas of the zoo."
Tampa Mayor Pam Iorio said she thinks the zoo's board must fire Salisbury when it convenes an emergency meeting next week to review the audit's findings.
"There has got to be a change in leadership as soon as possible," she said. "I trust the board will do the right thing."
As of late Friday, Tampa police said they had not launched an investigation into the zoo's chief, and the mayor had not asked the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to investigate, according to FDLE spokeswoman Trena Reddick.
It appears the zoo can terminate Salisbury's employment without any severance pay.
Salisbury's letter of employment expired in January 2006.
Along with his salary, Salisbury receives the use of a Range Rover, which cost up to $93,325, and two zoo-paid trips each year for his wife, one domestic and one international.
Iorio launched the audit after The Tampa Tribune reported that Salisbury had taken zoo animals and resources to help build Safari Wild, a private exotic-animal park he co-owns and plans to open in Polk County. The audit confirmed the incidents reported in the Tribune's investigation and uncovered several others.
The mayor said she was shocked to learn how deeply Salisbury had co-mingled zoo and personal businesses. "I couldn't believe it," she said.
Salisbury, the city auditors wrote, "seems unable to differentiate between his role as CEO of the zoo and the role he plays with his business and his ranch and fails to acknowledge the improprieties even after the results of the audit."
Salisbury often brought his own animals to the zoo for treatment and care, which created added burden for an overtaxed staff, the audit says.
At the same time, Salisbury created a culture in which zoo employees feared they would be fired if they didn't help with his private Polk County venture. Many were so fearful that they were reluctant to speak with city auditors.
Salisbury, who is on paid leave from the $339,000-a-year zoo job, could not be reached for comment. He has said he never improperly profited from his 21-year connection to the zoo.
When the appearance of conflict of interest began to make headlines, zoo board member Bob Merritt told the Tribune the board had reviewed all transactions with Safari Wild and found nothing improper.
Merritt didn't respond to messages seeking comment late Friday.
Instead, Merritt, now board chairman, said in a statement that the zoo has already made significant changes to beef up oversight of the attraction. These include committees to oversee audits, governance and compensation.
"The board is keenly aware that whatever actions we take now must continue to focus on restoring confidence in the integrity of zoo management," Merritt said in the statement.
The most expensive conflict auditors found involved $150,709 in structures the zoo built on the Safari Wild property. The zoo built a horse barn, monkey cages and a shade structure on the property where Salisbury and his business partner plan to run African-style safari tours for paid visitors.
The work was done as part of a now-voided agreement between Salisbury and board chairman Fassil Gabremariam, who resigned from the board after concerns arose about Salisbury's dealings.
When the Tribune first reported about the barns, Salisbury said they were meant to be temporary until the zoo could find some land where exhibit animals could get a break from life on display.
The auditors found the buildings to be substantial, with concrete foundations.
"It would be extremely difficult for those structures to be relocated," said Corrada, the city's board member.
Many of the issues raised in the audit involve animals, particularly species that could be big draws at Salisbury's exotic-animal park.
In some cases, the zoo would order animals it didn't have space for, then ship them to Safari Wild or Salisbury's ranch in Dade City.
In one such case, Safari Wild joined Lowry Park Zoo and several other attractions during early 2007 to import rare birds. Then Salisbury told the zoo's director of collections that Safari Wild could not afford its share of the order, which came to $44,975
Since the birds were already shipped and quarantined in Miami, the zoo paid for Safari Wild's birds. Eleven of the 18 birds went to Safari Wild at no cost to Salisbury.
All told, Salisbury recorded 278 animal transactions with the zoo, many of which raised questions for the auditors.
In April 2004, Salisbury gave the zoo two zebras for a $10,000 credit. One year later, he bought two zebras from the zoo for $2,000.
On the same day, he bought an African antelope known as a bongo for $2,000. Four months later, he gave the zoo a bongo for an $8,500 credit.
When questioned about the animal trading, Salisbury told auditors that the ranges in prices were due to fluctuating values on the open market.
As a result of Salisbury's animal dealing, the Association of Zoos and Aquariums temporarily revoked the accreditation of the zoo, Salisbury and Larry Killmar, the zoo's director of collections.
The suspension means Lowry Park can't borrow animals from other accredited zoos to enhance its exhibits.
The city owns the zoo land and animals. Part of the lease agreement with the Lowry Park Zoological Society stipulates that it meet the zoo association's standards.
The zoo should take "any and all steps necessary" to restore its accreditation, the audit concludes.
Reporter Josh Poltilove contributed to this report. Reporter Baird Helgeson can be reached at (813) 259-7668.
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Posted by ( ad ) on 12/13/2008 at 08:26 am.
The Zoo Board will meet when it gets around to it.If this were a "Moral" issue, the "Christians" of Tampa would be on this and the Church's would be preaching about it and the guy would be branded and thrashed and gone in a day. But, there is no sexual part of this or any innuendo so far, so it is relatively unimportant. It has to have SEX involved to get them excited enough to do something public. Maybe there is a gay zebra they can bring out.
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Posted by ( Dave ) on 12/13/2008 at 08:52 am.
Where was the OVERSIGHT on this ZOO? Who else is robbing the city blind?
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Posted by ( Cleaner51 ) on 12/13/2008 at 12:14 pm.
$339k/yr + perks + comp pkg., and he still has to steal from us??? This is what's wrong with our society!! Unmitigated GREED!!! It must stop!!!
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Posted by ( MakeADifference ) on 12/13/2008 at 12:54 pm.
I had tried unsuccessfully to work with Lex, through his vet, Dr. Murray, to give a Persian leopard there an appropriate home. When the leopard became too old and "ugly" to be out on exhibit, the cat was relegated to a night house there. You should ask to see the cats' night houses. It is nothing more than a concrete closet and that is where zoo cats spend most of their time. They are only outside during visiting hours and often they are rotated so that they only see daylight once every few days. We had a 1200 square foot enclosure, with an air conditioned den, and were willing to take the cat and give him a decent home. Lex refused because he didn't want the public to percieve us as having rescued a cat from him. His concern with his own ego was more important than giving the leopard a decent place to live. According to the cat's keepers, they tried to rotate him out into the FL Panther exibit during the night, so that he wasn't locked up all the time, but he hated being locked inside so much that they couldn't even starve him into coming inside, so they quit allowing him out at all. I believe the cat has since died. We tried for several years to get the zoo to let him come here, to no avail. It is an ugly business and if people could see what happens behind the scenes in zoos (as Baird's continued coverage is now showing) they would not support this abusive industry. I think they would be smart to turn it into a rescue zoo where no breeding is done and the only way animals come in the door is if they have to be rescued. Zoos are an outdated institution and they suffer financially because the public isn't stupid. Anyone can see how little zoos are really doing for animals in the wild and anyone can see that wild animals don't belong in cages. Science has brought us out of the dark ages and we now know that animals can experience many of the same kinds of emotions as people can.
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Posted by ( Inca59 ) on 12/13/2008 at 08:08 pm.
I have met Lex, at least casually. This guy has the largest ego you could imagine. He views animals as "commodities" and nothing more. I personally witnessed him bragging about killing the tiger that escape from its enclosure ... almost as if he was on a safari hunt ... big man. I felt like laying him out on the spot because of the arrogance he displayed. He is the worst of "public" officials. His salary is absurd. His benefits are ridiculous. If the city and state does not pursue this man to the end including criminal charges (how could you view it as anything but criminal), then shame on them as they simply will endorse more bad behavior by these worthless public officials. No matter what we are reading here, you know it is even worse than that. I've never really wished for bad things to come to another person, but this guy deserves the full brunt of public humiliation, political lambasting and any criminal charges that can be executed by the most liberal interpretations of state and federal laws. He should be in a cage for a while, it would suit him just perfectly.
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/13/2008 at 10:52 pm.
i got that from him, too. I have to wonder what lit a fire under pam, finally other than her NEED to be on ANOTHER board. BUT, the thing is it's a good thing lex wasn't a Tampa firefighter or cop or IAD or detective out stalking citizens or this would have been left to go on for YEARS. YEARS.Poor cat. That's a sickening story. People DO see what goes on at the zoo. We're not blind.
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Monday, December 8, 2008
I take it from the air in my yard
that you don't mind a bit if I continue talking. Okay, that's good because yknow what?
I know some things you don't know.
You think you have tampa all tamped down. We'll just see about that.
It's time to name names.
Don't forget that murder .... goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on .....
And, as I've said .. you won't get where you're going .... the way you're trying to get there.
I know some things you don't know.
You think you have tampa all tamped down. We'll just see about that.
It's time to name names.
Don't forget that murder .... goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on .....
And, as I've said .. you won't get where you're going .... the way you're trying to get there.
no maam EMS was not called to our store for ANY reason
THIRD time I got that on video where you pull up WITH ME while I leave my loved one at work and then I call the store to determine if you have a REASON to be there and NO you DO NOT. Not to mention the faked-up big lots and the others.
For god's sake.
I keep trying to figure out why you would all defend a murderer and the ONLY conclusion that makes sense is that it's some kind of MURDER CLUB.
Which is just what I'd heard in the first place.
MURDERERS !!!!
For god's sake.
I keep trying to figure out why you would all defend a murderer and the ONLY conclusion that makes sense is that it's some kind of MURDER CLUB.
Which is just what I'd heard in the first place.
MURDERERS !!!!
Sunday, December 7, 2008
downloads and monitoring
it can't be AN ACCIDENT that the Tampa Fire Rescue who might as well BLOG FOR US except for, you know, they're dishonest and the rest .. so that would NEVER do .... jumps off to an emergency each time I download my camera card (which I have DOZENS OF HERE AND ELSEWHERE BY THE WAY LMAO) .... I wonder how long it would take the FBI (if we had one in Tampa) to determine who is tracking my activity online.
I just wonder. Because just like cellphones all that activity travels the same way.
Anyway .... knock yourselves out.
And, thanks.
Now, that will change.
Whew.
Their smart chip is totally missing.
I just wonder. Because just like cellphones all that activity travels the same way.
Anyway .... knock yourselves out.
And, thanks.
Now, that will change.
Whew.
Their smart chip is totally missing.
Saturday, December 6, 2008
ready for whatever ........
i really like this song. Funny how I found it.
The part I like is about New Orleans .... (among other things ... )
I'll be here when the smoke clears
You waitin' on me to die you gonna be
waitin' for a minute
Boy I´m ready for whatever, somebody better tell 'em
I be here when the smoke clears and everythin settles, for real
Can't afford the price of fame 'coz it cost too much
Plus these sucka niggaz lame and they talk too much
that why I´m Ready for whatever, somebody better tell 'em
I be here when the smoke clears and everythin' settles, for real
The part I like is about New Orleans .... (among other things ... )
I'll be here when the smoke clears
You waitin' on me to die you gonna be
waitin' for a minute
Boy I´m ready for whatever, somebody better tell 'em
I be here when the smoke clears and everythin settles, for real
Can't afford the price of fame 'coz it cost too much
Plus these sucka niggaz lame and they talk too much
that why I´m Ready for whatever, somebody better tell 'em
I be here when the smoke clears and everythin' settles, for real
Is this what yall use??
made a full recovery, court documents say.
The bottle from Smith was sent to the State Patrol Toxicology Laboratory for testing, and the lab reported finding the restricted and highly toxic insecticide Methomyl.
I toldya for the last time the other day. Don't threaten me. I do not like to be threatened or pushed.
What kind of people will rent/buy/steal/have a prisoner CREATE an auto tag to communicate a threat but won't come to the table, explain and apologize and move on?
WHAT KIND OF FUCKED UP PEOPLE WILL GET IN THE CAR AND DRIVE IT???
Got a nice video of them ... I'm sure someone will recognize it.
You owe me.
YOU OWE ME.
You stole from me and murdered my family.
DON'T YOU DARE THREATEN ME.
The bottle from Smith was sent to the State Patrol Toxicology Laboratory for testing, and the lab reported finding the restricted and highly toxic insecticide Methomyl.
I toldya for the last time the other day. Don't threaten me. I do not like to be threatened or pushed.
What kind of people will rent/buy/steal/have a prisoner CREATE an auto tag to communicate a threat but won't come to the table, explain and apologize and move on?
WHAT KIND OF FUCKED UP PEOPLE WILL GET IN THE CAR AND DRIVE IT???
Got a nice video of them ... I'm sure someone will recognize it.
You owe me.
YOU OWE ME.
You stole from me and murdered my family.
DON'T YOU DARE THREATEN ME.
deadline
yeah, um sorry you missed that.
USFCU ... exactly.
Let's play SOL
FUCK YOU.
Ask Michael B. Keller who toxinates my yard, car and home why the rest of this happens.
You'll find him down in South Tampa right close to Marion Lambert.
Now perhaps you'll take me at my word.
USFCU ... exactly.
Let's play SOL
FUCK YOU.
Ask Michael B. Keller who toxinates my yard, car and home why the rest of this happens.
You'll find him down in South Tampa right close to Marion Lambert.
Now perhaps you'll take me at my word.
Friday, December 5, 2008
south tampa fireman and HIS BABY
this guy who is a good-enough-looking guy actually is a sickening human being. He's been in my loved ones job before standing there smirking at me as if to say ... look, HERE I AM. I mean, dude, first of all, NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.
Second of all, you're not the brightest light on the string.
BUT, most sickening of all is not only do you whore yourself out for whatever reward you think you have but you shoot HATE at a person you do not even KNOW over the head of an innocent and beautiful little baby.
Is that just like daddy did for you???
Again ... my experience was so much different than yours.
I am going right this moment to get on my knees and thank GOD for my luck.
I hope you find a way to get yourself out of the situation you're in because you look decent enough NOT to want to raise a hate-filled child.
Of course, you can't tell a book by it's cover.
It's sad that you use that little baby for your cover of stalking. Also, does this mean that mama works weird shifts like say as a fireperson or stalking police woman, perhaps??
Wow, you keep going on that path and that child has no chance to be a real human. Really love, really create, REALLY FEEL.
Seriously, there must be something HUGE missing in your life to cause you to pack your baby in your ride, put the little innocent body in a shopping cart, lurk on the sidewalk facing outwards where I ALWAYS DRIVE. ALWAYS ... and then shoot me dirty looks while you pretended to fix whatever .... yeah, that's smooth.
Suppose in those moments you were lurking one of the crackheads you've created decided that it was time to rob something and ran out on that sidewalk shooting/??
Suppose one of the elderly folks of the houses yall are poisoning with termite control in the air duct work had driven up on the sidewalk like the poor lady ran through the fence??
Suppose that anything could have happened. I teach everyone I can that when you do unnecessary things you ften suffer unnecessary consequences.
You still feeling so smug about whoring out your child to cover up your illegal activity?
Because THAT IS what you are doing.
Whatever delusion you are living under, that is exactly what you are doing.
You had no reason to be there. Guy with a baby looking so innocent ....
you know ... alla that.
Yet you put that child in harm's way for what???
BECAUSE YOU DO WHAT YOUR CELL PHONE TELLS YOU TO DO.
You're the second or third decent looking guy I've seen up to this sickness.
You could have done anything and instead you're standing on a sidewalk exposing your child to hate and whoring that innocent body out to suit your purpose.
Yep.
Sorry to be so blunt.
But you are the one stalking ME so if you were not stalking me I would not have any reason to even know who you are.
You know?
Take care of yourself. Better yet take care of that innocent baby.
Raise it better than whatever happened to you
Second of all, you're not the brightest light on the string.
BUT, most sickening of all is not only do you whore yourself out for whatever reward you think you have but you shoot HATE at a person you do not even KNOW over the head of an innocent and beautiful little baby.
Is that just like daddy did for you???
Again ... my experience was so much different than yours.
I am going right this moment to get on my knees and thank GOD for my luck.
I hope you find a way to get yourself out of the situation you're in because you look decent enough NOT to want to raise a hate-filled child.
Of course, you can't tell a book by it's cover.
It's sad that you use that little baby for your cover of stalking. Also, does this mean that mama works weird shifts like say as a fireperson or stalking police woman, perhaps??
Wow, you keep going on that path and that child has no chance to be a real human. Really love, really create, REALLY FEEL.
Seriously, there must be something HUGE missing in your life to cause you to pack your baby in your ride, put the little innocent body in a shopping cart, lurk on the sidewalk facing outwards where I ALWAYS DRIVE. ALWAYS ... and then shoot me dirty looks while you pretended to fix whatever .... yeah, that's smooth.
Suppose in those moments you were lurking one of the crackheads you've created decided that it was time to rob something and ran out on that sidewalk shooting/??
Suppose one of the elderly folks of the houses yall are poisoning with termite control in the air duct work had driven up on the sidewalk like the poor lady ran through the fence??
Suppose that anything could have happened. I teach everyone I can that when you do unnecessary things you ften suffer unnecessary consequences.
You still feeling so smug about whoring out your child to cover up your illegal activity?
Because THAT IS what you are doing.
Whatever delusion you are living under, that is exactly what you are doing.
You had no reason to be there. Guy with a baby looking so innocent ....
you know ... alla that.
Yet you put that child in harm's way for what???
BECAUSE YOU DO WHAT YOUR CELL PHONE TELLS YOU TO DO.
You're the second or third decent looking guy I've seen up to this sickness.
You could have done anything and instead you're standing on a sidewalk exposing your child to hate and whoring that innocent body out to suit your purpose.
Yep.
Sorry to be so blunt.
But you are the one stalking ME so if you were not stalking me I would not have any reason to even know who you are.
You know?
Take care of yourself. Better yet take care of that innocent baby.
Raise it better than whatever happened to you
Thursday, December 4, 2008
16 gig sd cards
hold a LOT OF SHIT and are almost invisible. L M A O. lalalallalallalallalallaal so all that following me around .... I coulda hidden it in a shoe and given it away. ANY TIME. I got yall beat from the starting gate. You and your selective education. Busy trying to keep me from one .. neglecting your own minds. "minds"
think think think think think think think.
you think you're some hot shit climbing in that deathbox and roaring around.
GO FUCK YOURSELF.
think think think think think think think.
you think you're some hot shit climbing in that deathbox and roaring around.
GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Occasional hood fireman
I am NOT intimidated by you or anyone you know or associate with or may hire to murder myself or my family.
FUCK YOURSELF.
If I even smell one of you motherfuckers around myself or anyone or anything that I am vaguely related to AGAIN I will publish every word I have on you and I am NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS IT.
HOW DARE YOU FUCKING THREATEN ME????????????????????????????????????
I will NEVER EVER AGAIN ever take down another word.
I have warned and warned.
Now, do you understand me when I say it's over?
Have them take their prying eyes, their goddamn white trash theater and anything else that might even make me blink and stuff it back up their asses.
I told you before WAY BACK: YOU LOST. DEAL WITH IT.
Spread the word.
I know you wanted my attention. You've been backflipping for it and murdering my family.
You got it.
YOU EVER SELL YOUR MOTHERFUCKING CRACK TO ANYONE IN MY FAMILY AGAIN. AND I WILL HAVE YOU IMPRISONED FOR AS LONG AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME???????
okay ...
You wanted me home more so you could fuck with me, right?
Maybe burn my house down>???
I WANT MY BELONGINGS RETURNED TO ME.
I AM LOSING MY PATIENCE.
THANK YOU>
FUCK YOURSELF.
If I even smell one of you motherfuckers around myself or anyone or anything that I am vaguely related to AGAIN I will publish every word I have on you and I am NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS IT.
HOW DARE YOU FUCKING THREATEN ME????????????????????????????????????
I will NEVER EVER AGAIN ever take down another word.
I have warned and warned.
Now, do you understand me when I say it's over?
Have them take their prying eyes, their goddamn white trash theater and anything else that might even make me blink and stuff it back up their asses.
I told you before WAY BACK: YOU LOST. DEAL WITH IT.
Spread the word.
I know you wanted my attention. You've been backflipping for it and murdering my family.
You got it.
YOU EVER SELL YOUR MOTHERFUCKING CRACK TO ANYONE IN MY FAMILY AGAIN. AND I WILL HAVE YOU IMPRISONED FOR AS LONG AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME???????
okay ...
You wanted me home more so you could fuck with me, right?
Maybe burn my house down>???
I WANT MY BELONGINGS RETURNED TO ME.
I AM LOSING MY PATIENCE.
THANK YOU>
Tuesday, December 2, 2008
annie c2b fire fighter lil sister WHATEVER
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By JOSH POLTILOVE The Tampa Tribune
Published: August 27, 2008
Off-duty firefighter Benjamin Harrison had followed erratic drivers before, but he said the driver he tailed for miles Tuesday afternoon was the worst he had seen.
Harrison called 911 to report the man. After watching the car swerve repeatedly, Harrison decided the man could kill someone if Harrison didn't take immediate action. The man stopped at a mobile home park, and Harrison took the man's keys and refused to give them back. That's when the man attacked him with a box cutter, Harrison said.
Harrison, 45, a driver-engineer from Valrico who has been with Hillsborough County Fire Rescue for 13 years, was taken by ambulance to St. Joseph's Hospital. He since has gone home.
"I feel in my heart that if I didn't take his keys, he would've definitely gotten into a wreck," Harrison said.
Richard Martin Bruneau said he did cut Harrison. Bruneau, however, disagrees with Harrison's version of events. He said he was sober and only was driving in the park. He said his girlfriend drove him there and that he was sitting in a parked car when Harrison attacked him for no reason. He said he cut Harrison in self-defense.
"He grabbed me in a choke hold, and he about killed me," Bruneau said.
Hillsborough County deputies support Harrison's version. They arrested Bruneau at 1:02 p.m. Tuesday, saying he had committed aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. Bruneau was released from jail at 12:36 a.m. today after posting $7,500 bail.
Harrison's 911 call is part of an ongoing investigation and was not available to the media today, sheriff's spokesman J.D. Callaway said
Deputies didn't test Bruneau's blood-alcohol level, Callaway said.
"There was just a discretionary choice by detectives not to do that," he said.
Harrison said he first noticed Bruneau about 12:40 p.m. Tuesday. Harrison, who was driving his personal vehicle, a Chevrolet Camaro, said Bruneau's Toyota was swerving on Valrico Road.
"He was just out of control," Harrison said. "I called 911 and said, 'He's either extremely drunk or he's diabetic and he's having a diabetic crisis.' I witnessed him run a traffic light at about 50 miles an hour, and he never slowed down. I said, 'He's going to kill somebody if I don't get him to stop.' "
Bruneau, 43, of 5455 Burgess Ave., Cocoa, stopped his car at the entrance to a mobile home park on Valrico Road, deputies say.
Harrison said he used a ruse to approach Bruneau. He got out of his car and told Bruneau that a big chunk of Bruneau's Toyota had fallen off.
When Bruneau went to the rear of his car to check, Harrison removed Bruneau's keys.
During the ensuing struggle, Bruneau slashed him, Harrison said.
"The blade was so sharp, I didn't even know he cut me," Harrison said. "He's struggling to get up. Then I noticed the blood. … When I realized I was cut, I let him up, and I was kind of in shock and freaking out."
Harrison said Bruneau went back to the Toyota – he's not sure why – and that it worried him. Harrison got out a gun to defend himself, he said. Tampa Tribune records confirm Harrison has a concealed weapons permit.
Bruneau still had the box cutter, and Harrison warned him he had a gun and fired one shot into the air, Harrison said.
Bruneau disagrees with Harrison's story.
He said he was sitting in the car in the parking lot, waiting for a niece who lives nearby, when Harrison attacked him for no reason. He said he works as a window tinter and carries a razor on his neck and used it to cut Harrison to protect himself.
Bruneau ran away after the fight, say deputies, who used a sheriff's helicopter to locate him.
Harrison had a severe laceration on his right leg, deputies say.
The hospital used 51 staples to close the wound. He does not have tendon or ligament damage but expects to miss four to six weeks of work.
In a separate incident Aug. 7, Bruneau was charged with driving under the influence, refusing to submit to testing and driving with a canceled, suspended or revoked license. He said he "wasn't totally drunk" that night. That case is pending.
Reporter Josh Poltilove can be reached at jpoltilove@tampatrib.com or (813) 259-7691.
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Posted by ( Reality ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:13 pm.
Hey TBO, if "deputies didn't test Bruneau's blood-alcohol level" then how they heck could they charge him with "refusing to submit to testing?"
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Posted by ( MELONPOPPER ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:21 pm.
Firefighter's are not cops. he should have just waited a few minutes the po po were on there way. Stop tryin to be a "Firefighter Hero". It's gettin old already. He's lucky that guy didn't have a gun. He'd need more than staples to fix what could have happened.
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Posted by ( beavis ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:27 pm.
guaranteed this guy was drunk. good job getting a psycho driver off the road. too many of them around these parts. who carries a razor around their neck anyway? paraniod much?
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Posted by ( Seismic ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:28 pm.
@ (reality)In a separate incident Aug. 7, Bruneau was charged with driving under the influence, refusing to submit to testing and driving with a canceled, suspended or revoked license. He said he "wasn't totally drunk" that night. That case is pending.He refused in an investigation earlier this month for DUI.
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Posted by ( baton619 ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:29 pm.
He fired a shot into the air??. He is a firefighter and he fired a shot into the air???. Doesn't he know that firing a shot into the air is a NO-NO!!!!!. You use a firearm to stop a subject from doing whatever it is he was doing that threatened your life or the life of another. Warning shots MUST come down somewhere......He should have held him at gunpoint, and if he continued to advance he should have shot the bad guy. NOW this piece of ---- will go on to harm others......Read your CCF booklet........
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Posted by ( akagorilla ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:37 pm.
Nice headline. I was wondering how a fireman's "ladder" was slashed. I get it, but i was hoping for an interesting story and a spelling error.
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Posted by ( mexybug ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:44 pm.
I'm surprised they didn't check his blood alcohol level. He was driving irratically....I think that should've been investigated a little further. Maybe it would've also help with why he attacked this guy- if he did in fact attack him. Wierd.
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Posted by ( PTYmaleante ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:50 pm.
For some reason this firefigher reminds me of Fire Marshall Bill with a vigilante attitude. He should have minded his own freaking business instead of playing cop. I drive on the Howard Frankland Bridge every day on my commute to work and see drivers doing over 100 MPH and I don't chase them for the same reason: I don't want to get shot or stabbed....Let me show ya something!!!
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Posted by ( Joygirl1 ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:54 pm.
Since when do Firefighters carry guns? Since he had no alcohol test, he may walk.I agree, he should have waited for the Police to come to the scene.
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Posted by ( fishe ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:05 pm.
Since the police did not see the guy operating the vehicle, there is no probable cause for them to administer a BAT. If the firefighter was a certified LEO, then they could arrest the guy under the firefighter's witness account.Think the firefighter is in the wrong line of public service. Leave the policing to the police. Won't be surprised if the guy doesn't lawyer up and push to get "grand theft motor vehicle" charges brought against the fire fighter.
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Posted by ( Gladiator ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:14 pm.
I said it before let the cops handle it. He already called 911 so let thm finish it. I think he wanted to be a hero. His job aint cuttin it.
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Posted by ( spyguy ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:17 pm.
charge the firefighter with a crime. he stole the guys keys and admitted to it!
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Posted by ( secretroses ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:30 pm.
I think the firefighter was being a good citizen and saw this driver was a danger...and checked it out...whether it was a diabetic issue or alcohol. I think he has learned the hard way how dangerous that can be. I do not understand why the police did not test the suspects alcohol level.
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Posted by ( turbobodi ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:40 pm.
...uh oh. ...this is turning to sh..!
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Posted by ( G8orgirl ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:40 pm.
Firefighter, concerned citizen, whatever, unless you are a police officer with a badge don't approach someone you think has been drinking or could be a menace to society. Firefighter is lucky he only got cut. Personally if someone pulls me over as a ruse and takes my keys I am going to look at it as a car jacking and pull a gun.
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Posted by ( mwhite6 ) on 08/27/2008 at 07:11 pm.
Agreed - burn the fireman. He's toast. Wouldn't you be inflamed if a fireman lit into you like that? It sure would have ignited me.
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Posted by ( carpe_diem ) on 08/27/2008 at 07:31 pm.
I am proud that the firefighter tryed to protect others. The use of the words "latter" and "ruse" are entertaining.The accused has recent pending charges... Hmmmm. Did LEO run a check on that before letting him go? Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, must be a ??????
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Posted by ( Workoholic ) on 08/27/2008 at 08:01 pm.
No good deed goes unpunished!
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Posted by ( carpe_diem ) on 08/27/2008 at 08:10 pm.
WorkoholicI am right there with you!
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Posted by ( herb ) on 08/27/2008 at 08:14 pm.
Ah, hot lead flying in the air on a Tuesday afternoon in Valrico. But, not to worry. Warning shots don’t come down as long as the shooter is a fireman, has a carry permit and is “freaking out.”
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Posted by ( GF ) on 08/27/2008 at 09:27 pm.
Reminder for the future: Drunk in front of you, be passive, let him be. Drunk coming at you, pray that he doesn't hit you, or if he does, sue the firefighter behind him for not trying to stop him, even when he knew he was drunk, because the drunk won't have a license or insurance. What a bunch of wusses. Cops are wusses too for not testing for DUI under citizens arrest statutes. They hung this guy out to dry. That will make citizens get involved in crime for sure. Sheesh.
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Posted by ( picogator ) on 08/27/2008 at 10:10 pm.
Joygirl....this man had a permit to carry a concealed weapon. He was doing so as a citizen; you can do the same.Proud of this firefighter and the way he handled the situation with an obvious cretin.
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Posted by ( jmckeown ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:49 am.
The fire fighter should be charged just as well for firing his gun into the air.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 09:21 am.
Harrison took Bruneau's keys out of his car just to try and detain him until the cops got there. He only did that because the guy was driving so crazy! The article left out that after Harrison took the keys Bruneau tried getting in Harrison's car and drive off. Harrison grab Bruneau and that is when Bruneau hit Harrison in the face and a fight started. Harrison held him down in self defense waiting for the cops. That's when Bruneau slashed his leg open from knee to anckle. His calf was half hanging out and he got stiches and 51 staples! If you look at Bruneau's arrest photo, he doesn't even have a mark on his neck. I agree that Harrison is not a cop and he should have waited for them to get there, but sometimes things don't happen as we plan them and this was just one of those times.
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 11:17 am.
The firefighter tricked Bruneau into getting out of his car by claiming that something had fallen off his bumper and then attacked him by grabbing him in a choke hold and flinging him to the ground. This is when a physical fight insued between the firefighter and Bruneau. The firefighter shot his gun in a trailer park where anyone could have been hurt. At this time Bruneau was in fear for his life. Bruneau then trying to free himself from a second choke hold after the gun had been fired cut the firefighter with his window tinting knife in order to free himself and then fled the scene to get away from the off-duty firefighter who he thought was trying to kill him (Bruneau). What was not stated in the article is Bruneau came back to the seen voluntarily once he realized the police were there. Bruneau is the victim here not the off-duty firefighter who is a want-to-be police officer. He should have waited for the police to come to the scene instead of taking matters into his own hands. He may now think twice before ever attacking someone again.
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 12:32 pm.
The firefighter tricked Bruneau into getting out of his car by claiming that something had fallen off his bumper and then attacked him by grabbing him in a choke hold and flinging him to the ground. This is when a physical fight insued between the firefighter and Bruneau. The firefighter shot his gun in a trailer park where anyone could have been hurt. At this time Bruneau was in fear for his life. Bruneau then trying to free himself from a second choke hold after the gun had been fired cut the firefighter with his window tinting knife in order to free himself and then fled the scene to get away from the off-duty firefighter who he thought was trying to kill him (Bruneau). What was not stated in the article is Bruneau came back to the seen voluntarily once he realized the police were there. Bruneau is the victim here not the off-duty firefighter who is a want-to-be police officer. He should have waited for the police to come to the scene instead of taking matters into his own hands. He may now think twice before ever attacking someone again.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:01 pm.
Bruneau was NOT in a choke hold when he cut Harrison's leg! He was on the ground with Harrison trying to hold him down. He would not have been able to cut Harrison's leg from knee to ankle in a choke hold! Harrison only went for the gun AFTER Bruneau came at him for a SECOND time with the box cutter! I guess you can say Bruneau came back to the scene on his own....with the help of two officers!!!!!!
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:13 pm.
amh288-Were you there? He was in a choke hold and he was not cut from his knee to ankle he was cut on his upper thigh-it wasn't a box cutter-it is a window tinting knife which Bruneau uses for his job as a window tinter. Bruneau came back to the scene on his own-he was not caught by two officers. Get your facts straight-I know because I WAS THERE!!!
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:35 pm.
Bruneau is not the victim, my brother is. On 7/15/07 Bruneau was charged with obstructing or opposing an officer and on 8/7/08 he was charged with DUI, driving on a suspended license and refusal to submit to testing, which goes to show his character. The only people in danger were my brother and everyone else Bruneau came in contact with that day. Bruneau's story is preposterous. He is clearly lying to try to diminish his criminal actions. His girlfriend drove him there? He was only driving in the park? He was sitting in a parked car? Which one is it? My brother is a very caring and conscientious person. This is not the first time that he has become involved in a situation that was potentially dangerous for him. One time he observed a police officer struggling with an individual who had been pulled over and he stopped and assisted the officer, who may have been killed without his help. He listens to his radio when he is not on duty and has gone to accident scenes to save lives. I can assure you, slc, that if my brother finds himself in a situation where people's lives are at risk and he is able to do something to help them, he will. And that goes to his character. I wish there were more people like him.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:53 pm.
slc - you need to check YOUR facts. My brother was 'filleted' from his knee to his ankle, not is upper thigh. And Bruneau does not have a job, he is "self-employed."
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:04 pm.
AnnieC2B-Bruneau was attacked by your brother. Your brother lied to him to get him out of the car and then attacked him. Where was your brother's character when he shot his gun in a public area and put people's lives in danger? Bruneau was not charged with DUI in this case so why is the reason your brother felt it necessary to attack him. He should have waited for the proper authorities (the police) to arrive at the scene so they could decide if he was impared or not. He was not tested so the police must have thought he was not impared or you would think they would have tested him. Bruneau's prior record has nothing to do with this incident. The case from 8/7 is pending so we will see how that turns out. Bruneau has had no prior violent crimes-he was defending himself. If your brother wants to play cop tell him to quit his job as a firefighter and become one.
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:11 pm.
AnnieC2B-Self-employed as a window tinter. He has his own business. That is a FACT.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:13 pm.
But he doesn't have a job.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:19 pm.
Bruneau was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, which is much more serious than a DUI. That is why he wasn't charged with DUI. The police and firefighters work very closely together, and defend each other like brothers, I doubt very seriously that they are going to take Bruneau's word over a brother firefighter's. Hire your friend a lawyer, if you want to help him.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:15 pm.
slc if you where there you would know Harrison was cut from his knee to his ankle. I have seen the cut myself! And Bruneau did not return on his own that is why the cops had a helicopter looking for him!! ALSO.. he has a prior arrest record in Brevard County!!!! A felony!!!!!!
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:54 pm.
I understand that there are people who do not agree with how Harrison handled the situation, I get that. I repect the fact that we are all intitled to our opinions. However, I can not stand when I read a comment on TBO that I KNOW is not true.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:17 pm.
amh288 - please know that any person with a brain and/or a heart supports my brother. (THIS IS NOT TRUE ANNIE THE THINKING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YALL ARE)Anyone that knows my brother supports my brother. Anyone that works with my brother supports my brother. The people he has helped support my brother. God supports my brother. I pray for Bruneau too, because look at the people that are supporting him.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:56 pm.
Bruneau really needs our prays because that is the only way he is gonna get over being an alcoholic. I totally support Harrison and thank you for commenting on line and defending him. You are a good sister AnnieC2B!
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 08:02 pm.
You are too, amh288! If anything good could come of this, it was finding a sister.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 08:07 pm.
AnnieC2B- You are so right!
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Posted by ( soaprita ) on 08/28/2008 at 11:29 pm.
Dear SLC, You only have the word of a convicted felon over that of a well respected firefighter with no record. If you fault the firefighter for trying to get a menace off the highway, and try to keep others safe, and your boyfriend from harming himself, then I fear you are just as delusional as Bruneau! My prayers are with you. Maybe it's time for a boyfriend change. What do ya think?
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/29/2008 at 09:25 am.
soaprita - thank you! Ben's sister
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 09/10/2008 at 09:21 am.
SLC is a liar! She is in fact the woman Bruneau is now living with after leaving her Husband for Bruneau. I feel indebted to the Firefighter who attempted to do the right thing and be a good samaritan. How would readers of this article feel if they knew someone could have prevented a member of thier family getting killed by a DUI driver, yet that someone just turned a blind eye to it? Richard Martin Bruneau is personally known to me and I can tell you first hand that he has been escaping the law for years. He is a habitual traffic Offender and was charged in several counties for Driving on a suspended or revoked license. As recently as July of 07 he was charged with DUI. Yet there he was out drinking and driving again. Yet he was not charged for DUI because the Officers could not place him behind the wheel. Another escape from justice for Bruneau. The Bruneau I know has been involved in drug sale and use for years but has never been caught. He has assaulted numerous persons not excluding sexually assaulting and rape that he was never charged with. I know because I was the victim. So those of you especially SLC ....should really think about the character of this deviant, who is genitically pre-disposed to go to prison. His father is currently incarcerated in the Florida State Prison.
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 09/11/2008 at 03:55 pm.
SLC is a liar! She is in fact the woman Bruneau is now living with after leaving her Husband for Bruneau. I feel indebted to the Firefighter who attempted to do the right thing and be a good samaritan. How would readers of this article feel if they knew someone could have prevented a member of thier family getting killed by a DUI driver, yet that someone just turned a blind eye to it? Richard Martin Bruneau is personally known to me and I can tell you first hand that he has been escaping the law for years. He is a habitual traffic Offender and was charged in several counties for Driving on a suspended or revoked license. As recently as July of 07 he was charged with DUI. Yet there he was out drinking and driving again. Yet he was not charged for DUI because the Officers could not place him behind the wheel. Another escape from justice for Bruneau. The Bruneau I know has been involved in Illegal drug sale and use for years but has never been caught. He has assaulted numerous persons not excluding sexually assaulting and rape that he was never charged with. I know because I was the victim. Look up his record. It doesnt only reflects very few of the crimes he has been CAUGHT FOR. So those of you especially SLC ....should really think about the character of this deviant, who is genitically pre-disposed to go to prison.
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 09/19/2008 at 07:55 am.
I would like to make a correction to my original Comments. In an effort to ensure the accuracy of information I would like to correct my inclusion regarding Richard Bruneaus'Father being presently incarcerated. I was incorrect in my facts. Mr. Paul V Bruneau served his sentence for the following charges: Sex Act Coerce child by Adult and Lewd and Lacivious Indescent Assault on a child under 16.
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 11/05/2008 at 11:17 am.
OK HERE WE GO AGAIN.....BRUNEAU ESCAPES JUSTICE. THE STATE ATTORNEYS OFFICE DID NOT PURSUE CHARGES AGAINST BRUNEAU BY WAIVER OF PROSECTION. CAN SOMEONE FROM BENS FAMILY PLEASE TELL ME WHY HE WOULD SIGN A WAIVER OF PROSECUTION TO LET THIS MEANCE WALK FREE YET ONCE AGAIN?
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/02/2008 at 07:42 pm.
It's what THEY DO. They follow people whether they drive erratically or NOT. They are STALKERS. Ask their ex-wives, girlfriends, victims, competitive crime family members and owners of valuable properties they haven't managed to displace yet.
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/02/2008 at 07:54 pm.
anniec2b said a mouthful here. Only it's MORE THAN A BROTHERHOOD. It's a CRIME FAMILY.And she must be profiting from it.Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:19 pm. Bruneau was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, which is much more serious than a DUI. That is why he wasn't charged with DUI. The police and firefighters work very closely together, and defend each other like brothers, I doubt very seriously that they are going to take Bruneau's word over a brother firefighter's. Hire your friend a lawyer, if you want to help him. Report Inappropriate Comments Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:15 pm. slc if you where there you would know Harrison was cut from his knee to his ankle. I have seen the cut myself! And Bruneau did not return on his own that is why the cops had a helicopter looking for him!! ALSO.. he has a prior arrest record in Brevard County!!!! A felony!!!!!! Report Inappropriate Comments Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:54 pm. I understand that there are people who do not agree with how Harrison handled the situation, I get that. I repect the fact that we are all intitled to our opinions. However, I can not stand when I read a comment on TBO that I KNOW is not true. Report Inappropriate Comments Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:17 pm. amh288 - please know that any person with a brain and/or a heart supports my brother. Anyone that knows my brother supports my brother. Anyone that works with my brother supports my brother. The people he has helped support my brother. God supports my brother. I pray for Bruneau too, because look at the people that are supporting him. Report Inappropriate Comments
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By JOSH POLTILOVE The Tampa Tribune
Published: August 27, 2008
Off-duty firefighter Benjamin Harrison had followed erratic drivers before, but he said the driver he tailed for miles Tuesday afternoon was the worst he had seen.
Harrison called 911 to report the man. After watching the car swerve repeatedly, Harrison decided the man could kill someone if Harrison didn't take immediate action. The man stopped at a mobile home park, and Harrison took the man's keys and refused to give them back. That's when the man attacked him with a box cutter, Harrison said.
Harrison, 45, a driver-engineer from Valrico who has been with Hillsborough County Fire Rescue for 13 years, was taken by ambulance to St. Joseph's Hospital. He since has gone home.
"I feel in my heart that if I didn't take his keys, he would've definitely gotten into a wreck," Harrison said.
Richard Martin Bruneau said he did cut Harrison. Bruneau, however, disagrees with Harrison's version of events. He said he was sober and only was driving in the park. He said his girlfriend drove him there and that he was sitting in a parked car when Harrison attacked him for no reason. He said he cut Harrison in self-defense.
"He grabbed me in a choke hold, and he about killed me," Bruneau said.
Hillsborough County deputies support Harrison's version. They arrested Bruneau at 1:02 p.m. Tuesday, saying he had committed aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. Bruneau was released from jail at 12:36 a.m. today after posting $7,500 bail.
Harrison's 911 call is part of an ongoing investigation and was not available to the media today, sheriff's spokesman J.D. Callaway said
Deputies didn't test Bruneau's blood-alcohol level, Callaway said.
"There was just a discretionary choice by detectives not to do that," he said.
Harrison said he first noticed Bruneau about 12:40 p.m. Tuesday. Harrison, who was driving his personal vehicle, a Chevrolet Camaro, said Bruneau's Toyota was swerving on Valrico Road.
"He was just out of control," Harrison said. "I called 911 and said, 'He's either extremely drunk or he's diabetic and he's having a diabetic crisis.' I witnessed him run a traffic light at about 50 miles an hour, and he never slowed down. I said, 'He's going to kill somebody if I don't get him to stop.' "
Bruneau, 43, of 5455 Burgess Ave., Cocoa, stopped his car at the entrance to a mobile home park on Valrico Road, deputies say.
Harrison said he used a ruse to approach Bruneau. He got out of his car and told Bruneau that a big chunk of Bruneau's Toyota had fallen off.
When Bruneau went to the rear of his car to check, Harrison removed Bruneau's keys.
During the ensuing struggle, Bruneau slashed him, Harrison said.
"The blade was so sharp, I didn't even know he cut me," Harrison said. "He's struggling to get up. Then I noticed the blood. … When I realized I was cut, I let him up, and I was kind of in shock and freaking out."
Harrison said Bruneau went back to the Toyota – he's not sure why – and that it worried him. Harrison got out a gun to defend himself, he said. Tampa Tribune records confirm Harrison has a concealed weapons permit.
Bruneau still had the box cutter, and Harrison warned him he had a gun and fired one shot into the air, Harrison said.
Bruneau disagrees with Harrison's story.
He said he was sitting in the car in the parking lot, waiting for a niece who lives nearby, when Harrison attacked him for no reason. He said he works as a window tinter and carries a razor on his neck and used it to cut Harrison to protect himself.
Bruneau ran away after the fight, say deputies, who used a sheriff's helicopter to locate him.
Harrison had a severe laceration on his right leg, deputies say.
The hospital used 51 staples to close the wound. He does not have tendon or ligament damage but expects to miss four to six weeks of work.
In a separate incident Aug. 7, Bruneau was charged with driving under the influence, refusing to submit to testing and driving with a canceled, suspended or revoked license. He said he "wasn't totally drunk" that night. That case is pending.
Reporter Josh Poltilove can be reached at jpoltilove@tampatrib.com or (813) 259-7691.
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Posted by ( Reality ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:13 pm.
Hey TBO, if "deputies didn't test Bruneau's blood-alcohol level" then how they heck could they charge him with "refusing to submit to testing?"
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Posted by ( MELONPOPPER ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:21 pm.
Firefighter's are not cops. he should have just waited a few minutes the po po were on there way. Stop tryin to be a "Firefighter Hero". It's gettin old already. He's lucky that guy didn't have a gun. He'd need more than staples to fix what could have happened.
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Posted by ( beavis ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:27 pm.
guaranteed this guy was drunk. good job getting a psycho driver off the road. too many of them around these parts. who carries a razor around their neck anyway? paraniod much?
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Posted by ( Seismic ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:28 pm.
@ (reality)In a separate incident Aug. 7, Bruneau was charged with driving under the influence, refusing to submit to testing and driving with a canceled, suspended or revoked license. He said he "wasn't totally drunk" that night. That case is pending.He refused in an investigation earlier this month for DUI.
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Posted by ( baton619 ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:29 pm.
He fired a shot into the air??. He is a firefighter and he fired a shot into the air???. Doesn't he know that firing a shot into the air is a NO-NO!!!!!. You use a firearm to stop a subject from doing whatever it is he was doing that threatened your life or the life of another. Warning shots MUST come down somewhere......He should have held him at gunpoint, and if he continued to advance he should have shot the bad guy. NOW this piece of ---- will go on to harm others......Read your CCF booklet........
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Posted by ( akagorilla ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:37 pm.
Nice headline. I was wondering how a fireman's "ladder" was slashed. I get it, but i was hoping for an interesting story and a spelling error.
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Posted by ( mexybug ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:44 pm.
I'm surprised they didn't check his blood alcohol level. He was driving irratically....I think that should've been investigated a little further. Maybe it would've also help with why he attacked this guy- if he did in fact attack him. Wierd.
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Posted by ( PTYmaleante ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:50 pm.
For some reason this firefigher reminds me of Fire Marshall Bill with a vigilante attitude. He should have minded his own freaking business instead of playing cop. I drive on the Howard Frankland Bridge every day on my commute to work and see drivers doing over 100 MPH and I don't chase them for the same reason: I don't want to get shot or stabbed....Let me show ya something!!!
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Posted by ( Joygirl1 ) on 08/27/2008 at 05:54 pm.
Since when do Firefighters carry guns? Since he had no alcohol test, he may walk.I agree, he should have waited for the Police to come to the scene.
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Posted by ( fishe ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:05 pm.
Since the police did not see the guy operating the vehicle, there is no probable cause for them to administer a BAT. If the firefighter was a certified LEO, then they could arrest the guy under the firefighter's witness account.Think the firefighter is in the wrong line of public service. Leave the policing to the police. Won't be surprised if the guy doesn't lawyer up and push to get "grand theft motor vehicle" charges brought against the fire fighter.
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Posted by ( Gladiator ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:14 pm.
I said it before let the cops handle it. He already called 911 so let thm finish it. I think he wanted to be a hero. His job aint cuttin it.
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Posted by ( spyguy ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:17 pm.
charge the firefighter with a crime. he stole the guys keys and admitted to it!
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Posted by ( secretroses ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:30 pm.
I think the firefighter was being a good citizen and saw this driver was a danger...and checked it out...whether it was a diabetic issue or alcohol. I think he has learned the hard way how dangerous that can be. I do not understand why the police did not test the suspects alcohol level.
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Posted by ( turbobodi ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:40 pm.
...uh oh. ...this is turning to sh..!
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Posted by ( G8orgirl ) on 08/27/2008 at 06:40 pm.
Firefighter, concerned citizen, whatever, unless you are a police officer with a badge don't approach someone you think has been drinking or could be a menace to society. Firefighter is lucky he only got cut. Personally if someone pulls me over as a ruse and takes my keys I am going to look at it as a car jacking and pull a gun.
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Posted by ( mwhite6 ) on 08/27/2008 at 07:11 pm.
Agreed - burn the fireman. He's toast. Wouldn't you be inflamed if a fireman lit into you like that? It sure would have ignited me.
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Posted by ( carpe_diem ) on 08/27/2008 at 07:31 pm.
I am proud that the firefighter tryed to protect others. The use of the words "latter" and "ruse" are entertaining.The accused has recent pending charges... Hmmmm. Did LEO run a check on that before letting him go? Looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, must be a ??????
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Posted by ( Workoholic ) on 08/27/2008 at 08:01 pm.
No good deed goes unpunished!
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Posted by ( carpe_diem ) on 08/27/2008 at 08:10 pm.
WorkoholicI am right there with you!
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Posted by ( herb ) on 08/27/2008 at 08:14 pm.
Ah, hot lead flying in the air on a Tuesday afternoon in Valrico. But, not to worry. Warning shots don’t come down as long as the shooter is a fireman, has a carry permit and is “freaking out.”
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Posted by ( GF ) on 08/27/2008 at 09:27 pm.
Reminder for the future: Drunk in front of you, be passive, let him be. Drunk coming at you, pray that he doesn't hit you, or if he does, sue the firefighter behind him for not trying to stop him, even when he knew he was drunk, because the drunk won't have a license or insurance. What a bunch of wusses. Cops are wusses too for not testing for DUI under citizens arrest statutes. They hung this guy out to dry. That will make citizens get involved in crime for sure. Sheesh.
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Posted by ( picogator ) on 08/27/2008 at 10:10 pm.
Joygirl....this man had a permit to carry a concealed weapon. He was doing so as a citizen; you can do the same.Proud of this firefighter and the way he handled the situation with an obvious cretin.
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Posted by ( jmckeown ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:49 am.
The fire fighter should be charged just as well for firing his gun into the air.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 09:21 am.
Harrison took Bruneau's keys out of his car just to try and detain him until the cops got there. He only did that because the guy was driving so crazy! The article left out that after Harrison took the keys Bruneau tried getting in Harrison's car and drive off. Harrison grab Bruneau and that is when Bruneau hit Harrison in the face and a fight started. Harrison held him down in self defense waiting for the cops. That's when Bruneau slashed his leg open from knee to anckle. His calf was half hanging out and he got stiches and 51 staples! If you look at Bruneau's arrest photo, he doesn't even have a mark on his neck. I agree that Harrison is not a cop and he should have waited for them to get there, but sometimes things don't happen as we plan them and this was just one of those times.
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 11:17 am.
The firefighter tricked Bruneau into getting out of his car by claiming that something had fallen off his bumper and then attacked him by grabbing him in a choke hold and flinging him to the ground. This is when a physical fight insued between the firefighter and Bruneau. The firefighter shot his gun in a trailer park where anyone could have been hurt. At this time Bruneau was in fear for his life. Bruneau then trying to free himself from a second choke hold after the gun had been fired cut the firefighter with his window tinting knife in order to free himself and then fled the scene to get away from the off-duty firefighter who he thought was trying to kill him (Bruneau). What was not stated in the article is Bruneau came back to the seen voluntarily once he realized the police were there. Bruneau is the victim here not the off-duty firefighter who is a want-to-be police officer. He should have waited for the police to come to the scene instead of taking matters into his own hands. He may now think twice before ever attacking someone again.
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 12:32 pm.
The firefighter tricked Bruneau into getting out of his car by claiming that something had fallen off his bumper and then attacked him by grabbing him in a choke hold and flinging him to the ground. This is when a physical fight insued between the firefighter and Bruneau. The firefighter shot his gun in a trailer park where anyone could have been hurt. At this time Bruneau was in fear for his life. Bruneau then trying to free himself from a second choke hold after the gun had been fired cut the firefighter with his window tinting knife in order to free himself and then fled the scene to get away from the off-duty firefighter who he thought was trying to kill him (Bruneau). What was not stated in the article is Bruneau came back to the seen voluntarily once he realized the police were there. Bruneau is the victim here not the off-duty firefighter who is a want-to-be police officer. He should have waited for the police to come to the scene instead of taking matters into his own hands. He may now think twice before ever attacking someone again.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:01 pm.
Bruneau was NOT in a choke hold when he cut Harrison's leg! He was on the ground with Harrison trying to hold him down. He would not have been able to cut Harrison's leg from knee to ankle in a choke hold! Harrison only went for the gun AFTER Bruneau came at him for a SECOND time with the box cutter! I guess you can say Bruneau came back to the scene on his own....with the help of two officers!!!!!!
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:13 pm.
amh288-Were you there? He was in a choke hold and he was not cut from his knee to ankle he was cut on his upper thigh-it wasn't a box cutter-it is a window tinting knife which Bruneau uses for his job as a window tinter. Bruneau came back to the scene on his own-he was not caught by two officers. Get your facts straight-I know because I WAS THERE!!!
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:35 pm.
Bruneau is not the victim, my brother is. On 7/15/07 Bruneau was charged with obstructing or opposing an officer and on 8/7/08 he was charged with DUI, driving on a suspended license and refusal to submit to testing, which goes to show his character. The only people in danger were my brother and everyone else Bruneau came in contact with that day. Bruneau's story is preposterous. He is clearly lying to try to diminish his criminal actions. His girlfriend drove him there? He was only driving in the park? He was sitting in a parked car? Which one is it? My brother is a very caring and conscientious person. This is not the first time that he has become involved in a situation that was potentially dangerous for him. One time he observed a police officer struggling with an individual who had been pulled over and he stopped and assisted the officer, who may have been killed without his help. He listens to his radio when he is not on duty and has gone to accident scenes to save lives. I can assure you, slc, that if my brother finds himself in a situation where people's lives are at risk and he is able to do something to help them, he will. And that goes to his character. I wish there were more people like him.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 02:53 pm.
slc - you need to check YOUR facts. My brother was 'filleted' from his knee to his ankle, not is upper thigh. And Bruneau does not have a job, he is "self-employed."
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:04 pm.
AnnieC2B-Bruneau was attacked by your brother. Your brother lied to him to get him out of the car and then attacked him. Where was your brother's character when he shot his gun in a public area and put people's lives in danger? Bruneau was not charged with DUI in this case so why is the reason your brother felt it necessary to attack him. He should have waited for the proper authorities (the police) to arrive at the scene so they could decide if he was impared or not. He was not tested so the police must have thought he was not impared or you would think they would have tested him. Bruneau's prior record has nothing to do with this incident. The case from 8/7 is pending so we will see how that turns out. Bruneau has had no prior violent crimes-he was defending himself. If your brother wants to play cop tell him to quit his job as a firefighter and become one.
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Posted by ( slc ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:11 pm.
AnnieC2B-Self-employed as a window tinter. He has his own business. That is a FACT.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:13 pm.
But he doesn't have a job.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:19 pm.
Bruneau was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, which is much more serious than a DUI. That is why he wasn't charged with DUI. The police and firefighters work very closely together, and defend each other like brothers, I doubt very seriously that they are going to take Bruneau's word over a brother firefighter's. Hire your friend a lawyer, if you want to help him.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:15 pm.
slc if you where there you would know Harrison was cut from his knee to his ankle. I have seen the cut myself! And Bruneau did not return on his own that is why the cops had a helicopter looking for him!! ALSO.. he has a prior arrest record in Brevard County!!!! A felony!!!!!!
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:54 pm.
I understand that there are people who do not agree with how Harrison handled the situation, I get that. I repect the fact that we are all intitled to our opinions. However, I can not stand when I read a comment on TBO that I KNOW is not true.
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:17 pm.
amh288 - please know that any person with a brain and/or a heart supports my brother. (THIS IS NOT TRUE ANNIE THE THINKING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YALL ARE)Anyone that knows my brother supports my brother. Anyone that works with my brother supports my brother. The people he has helped support my brother. God supports my brother. I pray for Bruneau too, because look at the people that are supporting him.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:56 pm.
Bruneau really needs our prays because that is the only way he is gonna get over being an alcoholic. I totally support Harrison and thank you for commenting on line and defending him. You are a good sister AnnieC2B!
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Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 08:02 pm.
You are too, amh288! If anything good could come of this, it was finding a sister.
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Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 08:07 pm.
AnnieC2B- You are so right!
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Posted by ( soaprita ) on 08/28/2008 at 11:29 pm.
Dear SLC, You only have the word of a convicted felon over that of a well respected firefighter with no record. If you fault the firefighter for trying to get a menace off the highway, and try to keep others safe, and your boyfriend from harming himself, then I fear you are just as delusional as Bruneau! My prayers are with you. Maybe it's time for a boyfriend change. What do ya think?
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soaprita - thank you! Ben's sister
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 09/10/2008 at 09:21 am.
SLC is a liar! She is in fact the woman Bruneau is now living with after leaving her Husband for Bruneau. I feel indebted to the Firefighter who attempted to do the right thing and be a good samaritan. How would readers of this article feel if they knew someone could have prevented a member of thier family getting killed by a DUI driver, yet that someone just turned a blind eye to it? Richard Martin Bruneau is personally known to me and I can tell you first hand that he has been escaping the law for years. He is a habitual traffic Offender and was charged in several counties for Driving on a suspended or revoked license. As recently as July of 07 he was charged with DUI. Yet there he was out drinking and driving again. Yet he was not charged for DUI because the Officers could not place him behind the wheel. Another escape from justice for Bruneau. The Bruneau I know has been involved in drug sale and use for years but has never been caught. He has assaulted numerous persons not excluding sexually assaulting and rape that he was never charged with. I know because I was the victim. So those of you especially SLC ....should really think about the character of this deviant, who is genitically pre-disposed to go to prison. His father is currently incarcerated in the Florida State Prison.
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 09/11/2008 at 03:55 pm.
SLC is a liar! She is in fact the woman Bruneau is now living with after leaving her Husband for Bruneau. I feel indebted to the Firefighter who attempted to do the right thing and be a good samaritan. How would readers of this article feel if they knew someone could have prevented a member of thier family getting killed by a DUI driver, yet that someone just turned a blind eye to it? Richard Martin Bruneau is personally known to me and I can tell you first hand that he has been escaping the law for years. He is a habitual traffic Offender and was charged in several counties for Driving on a suspended or revoked license. As recently as July of 07 he was charged with DUI. Yet there he was out drinking and driving again. Yet he was not charged for DUI because the Officers could not place him behind the wheel. Another escape from justice for Bruneau. The Bruneau I know has been involved in Illegal drug sale and use for years but has never been caught. He has assaulted numerous persons not excluding sexually assaulting and rape that he was never charged with. I know because I was the victim. Look up his record. It doesnt only reflects very few of the crimes he has been CAUGHT FOR. So those of you especially SLC ....should really think about the character of this deviant, who is genitically pre-disposed to go to prison.
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 09/19/2008 at 07:55 am.
I would like to make a correction to my original Comments. In an effort to ensure the accuracy of information I would like to correct my inclusion regarding Richard Bruneaus'Father being presently incarcerated. I was incorrect in my facts. Mr. Paul V Bruneau served his sentence for the following charges: Sex Act Coerce child by Adult and Lewd and Lacivious Indescent Assault on a child under 16.
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Posted by ( Twicebitten407 ) on 11/05/2008 at 11:17 am.
OK HERE WE GO AGAIN.....BRUNEAU ESCAPES JUSTICE. THE STATE ATTORNEYS OFFICE DID NOT PURSUE CHARGES AGAINST BRUNEAU BY WAIVER OF PROSECTION. CAN SOMEONE FROM BENS FAMILY PLEASE TELL ME WHY HE WOULD SIGN A WAIVER OF PROSECUTION TO LET THIS MEANCE WALK FREE YET ONCE AGAIN?
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/02/2008 at 07:42 pm.
It's what THEY DO. They follow people whether they drive erratically or NOT. They are STALKERS. Ask their ex-wives, girlfriends, victims, competitive crime family members and owners of valuable properties they haven't managed to displace yet.
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 12/02/2008 at 07:54 pm.
anniec2b said a mouthful here. Only it's MORE THAN A BROTHERHOOD. It's a CRIME FAMILY.And she must be profiting from it.Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 03:19 pm. Bruneau was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, which is much more serious than a DUI. That is why he wasn't charged with DUI. The police and firefighters work very closely together, and defend each other like brothers, I doubt very seriously that they are going to take Bruneau's word over a brother firefighter's. Hire your friend a lawyer, if you want to help him. Report Inappropriate Comments Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:15 pm. slc if you where there you would know Harrison was cut from his knee to his ankle. I have seen the cut myself! And Bruneau did not return on his own that is why the cops had a helicopter looking for him!! ALSO.. he has a prior arrest record in Brevard County!!!! A felony!!!!!! Report Inappropriate Comments Posted by ( amh288 ) on 08/28/2008 at 06:54 pm. I understand that there are people who do not agree with how Harrison handled the situation, I get that. I repect the fact that we are all intitled to our opinions. However, I can not stand when I read a comment on TBO that I KNOW is not true. Report Inappropriate Comments Posted by ( AnnieC2B ) on 08/28/2008 at 07:17 pm. amh288 - please know that any person with a brain and/or a heart supports my brother. Anyone that knows my brother supports my brother. Anyone that works with my brother supports my brother. The people he has helped support my brother. God supports my brother. I pray for Bruneau too, because look at the people that are supporting him. Report Inappropriate Comments
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wow someone over at Tampa Fire Rescue lerves to delve into the personals. Makes me kinda wonder about the amount of time they have on their hands because this outfit NEVER fails to stalk me when I am driving down Bearss Avenue in either direction.
I've got ridiculous amounts of video of them doing absolutely nothing and five neighbors passing by commenting on what is what.
It's not really amusing because now I KNOW of someone who claims to have set fires FOR THEM in the past. Huh.
And, funny how these people are always out and arriving home. Not so with my family who must be very loathed. For no good reason they were forced to run for their lives three different times, already. And, twice, the fire just wouldn't get going .......
Anyway ... dig the details. I'm sure this family is delighted. Victims of arson AND financial details (true or not) spread far and wide.
November 29, 2008
Dog, rabbit die in Lutz house fire
LUTZ -- A family of five lost a dog and pet rabbit when their home caught fire Saturday afternoon, according to Hillsborough County Fire Rescue.
The fire at 2009 Wallace Road also destroyed family keepsakes, clothing and important paperwork, said Abi Weaver of the American Red Cross Tampa Bay chapter, which is providing aid to the family.
Fire Rescue arrived at the home just after 2 p.m. The home was nearly engulfed in flames and firefighters tried to subdue the fire with water from tankers because there were no hydrants nearby.
No one was in the house at the time of the fire, but the couple who owns the house, and their sons, ages 22 and 7, and daughter age 10 arrived as firefighters were dealing with the blaze, Weaver said.
Among the items lost was the oldest son's master's thesis, which burned with the family computer.
The family will stay with relatives, but the Red cross provided them with emergency money for clothing, food and medicines, Weaver said.
"Fortunately this family owns their home and are insured," Weaver said. "So we are just helping in the immediate time until they can get that process going."
The cause is still under investigation, said Capt. Bruce Delk of Hillsborough County Fire rescue.
--Robbyn Mitchell, Times staff writer
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I've got ridiculous amounts of video of them doing absolutely nothing and five neighbors passing by commenting on what is what.
It's not really amusing because now I KNOW of someone who claims to have set fires FOR THEM in the past. Huh.
And, funny how these people are always out and arriving home. Not so with my family who must be very loathed. For no good reason they were forced to run for their lives three different times, already. And, twice, the fire just wouldn't get going .......
Anyway ... dig the details. I'm sure this family is delighted. Victims of arson AND financial details (true or not) spread far and wide.
November 29, 2008
Dog, rabbit die in Lutz house fire
LUTZ -- A family of five lost a dog and pet rabbit when their home caught fire Saturday afternoon, according to Hillsborough County Fire Rescue.
The fire at 2009 Wallace Road also destroyed family keepsakes, clothing and important paperwork, said Abi Weaver of the American Red Cross Tampa Bay chapter, which is providing aid to the family.
Fire Rescue arrived at the home just after 2 p.m. The home was nearly engulfed in flames and firefighters tried to subdue the fire with water from tankers because there were no hydrants nearby.
No one was in the house at the time of the fire, but the couple who owns the house, and their sons, ages 22 and 7, and daughter age 10 arrived as firefighters were dealing with the blaze, Weaver said.
Among the items lost was the oldest son's master's thesis, which burned with the family computer.
The family will stay with relatives, but the Red cross provided them with emergency money for clothing, food and medicines, Weaver said.
"Fortunately this family owns their home and are insured," Weaver said. "So we are just helping in the immediate time until they can get that process going."
The cause is still under investigation, said Capt. Bruce Delk of Hillsborough County Fire rescue.
--Robbyn Mitchell, Times staff writer
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five generations NO HOUSE BURNED DOWN
Lutz Family Keeps Five Generations Intact For Holiday
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LUTZ - Most people are thankful to have their parents and children in the same house for Thanksgiving, but one local family has a five-generation Turkey Day tradition that started in the 1950s and is still going strong.
At the Lindsay family Thanksgiving dinner in Lutz, there are plenty of kids making plenty of excited noise. After all, family matriarch Elizabeth Lindsay has seven children, 19 grandchildren and, umm, how many great grandchildren? After 20, she says, pretty much quit counting.
"I started something, didn't I," she said. "Families a lot of times grow apart, and mine grew within."
Jennifer Pilkey, a fourth-generation member of the clan, wouldn't have it any other way.
"It's just great I still have my nanny here, my granny and my dads and all our kids," she said. "It's just awesome."
The celebration took on a special meaning for one of the "newer" members of the family, second generation sister Barbara Boully.
"I had a brother just come back from Iraq for the third time, and I'm thankful for that," she said.
Barbara's husband, Harold Boully, plays the role of family historian. He's passionate about deep family ties. Forty years ago, his family was featured in The Tampa Tribune and he still has the clippings.
"It's kind of rough getting five generations together at one time and they're scattered around," Harold Boully said. "To me, it's an honor to be in this family and they're a great bunch of people."
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LUTZ - Most people are thankful to have their parents and children in the same house for Thanksgiving, but one local family has a five-generation Turkey Day tradition that started in the 1950s and is still going strong.
At the Lindsay family Thanksgiving dinner in Lutz, there are plenty of kids making plenty of excited noise. After all, family matriarch Elizabeth Lindsay has seven children, 19 grandchildren and, umm, how many great grandchildren? After 20, she says, pretty much quit counting.
"I started something, didn't I," she said. "Families a lot of times grow apart, and mine grew within."
Jennifer Pilkey, a fourth-generation member of the clan, wouldn't have it any other way.
"It's just great I still have my nanny here, my granny and my dads and all our kids," she said. "It's just awesome."
The celebration took on a special meaning for one of the "newer" members of the family, second generation sister Barbara Boully.
"I had a brother just come back from Iraq for the third time, and I'm thankful for that," she said.
Barbara's husband, Harold Boully, plays the role of family historian. He's passionate about deep family ties. Forty years ago, his family was featured in The Tampa Tribune and he still has the clippings.
"It's kind of rough getting five generations together at one time and they're scattered around," Harold Boully said. "To me, it's an honor to be in this family and they're a great bunch of people."
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Published: November 27, 2008
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LUTZ - Most people are thankful to have their parents and children in the same house for Thanksgiving, but one local family has a five-generation Turkey Day tradition that started in the 1950s and is still going strong.
At the Lindsay family Thanksgiving dinner in Lutz, there are plenty of kids making plenty of excited noise. After all, family matriarch Elizabeth Lindsay has seven children, 19 grandchildren and, umm, how many great grandchildren? After 20, she says, pretty much quit counting.
"I started something, didn't I," she said. "Families a lot of times grow apart, and mine grew within."
Jennifer Pilkey, a fourth-generation member of the clan, wouldn't have it any other way.
"It's just great I still have my nanny here, my granny and my dads and all our kids," she said. "It's just awesome."
The celebration took on a special meaning for one of the "newer" members of the family, second generation sister Barbara Boully.
"I had a brother just come back from Iraq for the third time, and I'm thankful for that," she said.
Barbara's husband, Harold Boully, plays the role of family historian. He's passionate about deep family ties. Forty years ago, his family was featured in The Tampa Tribune and he still has the clippings.
"It's kind of rough getting five generations together at one time and they're scattered around," Harold Boully said. "To me, it's an honor to be in this family and they're a great bunch of people."
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• Woman's Body Found In Belleair Home
• Local Man Narrowly Avoided India Terrorism
• Web Links St. Pete Woman To Family's Reality In Mumbai
• Pilot In Davis Islands Plane Crash Is Tampa Plastic Surgeon
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LUTZ - Most people are thankful to have their parents and children in the same house for Thanksgiving, but one local family has a five-generation Turkey Day tradition that started in the 1950s and is still going strong.
At the Lindsay family Thanksgiving dinner in Lutz, there are plenty of kids making plenty of excited noise. After all, family matriarch Elizabeth Lindsay has seven children, 19 grandchildren and, umm, how many great grandchildren? After 20, she says, pretty much quit counting.
"I started something, didn't I," she said. "Families a lot of times grow apart, and mine grew within."
Jennifer Pilkey, a fourth-generation member of the clan, wouldn't have it any other way.
"It's just great I still have my nanny here, my granny and my dads and all our kids," she said. "It's just awesome."
The celebration took on a special meaning for one of the "newer" members of the family, second generation sister Barbara Boully.
"I had a brother just come back from Iraq for the third time, and I'm thankful for that," she said.
Barbara's husband, Harold Boully, plays the role of family historian. He's passionate about deep family ties. Forty years ago, his family was featured in The Tampa Tribune and he still has the clippings.
"It's kind of rough getting five generations together at one time and they're scattered around," Harold Boully said. "To me, it's an honor to be in this family and they're a great bunch of people."
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Posted by ( Cracker45 ) on 11/27/2008 at 11:18 pm.
WONDERFUL!
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Posted by ( DaddyLutz ) on 11/28/2008 at 09:06 am.
A great story about an even greater family!
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 11/28/2008 at 04:32 pm.
I guess the firemen like them and don't burn their homes down.I know they are grateful for that.
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Saturday, November 22, 2008
FIREMEN CUT EXTENSION CORDS
Is mr morgan another home owner you are SEEKING TO DIVEST OF HIS HOME YOU MURDERERS?????????????????????
Pasco Man Jailed After Trying To Save Pets As Home Burns
By LISA A. DAVIS The Tampa Tribune
Published: November 21, 2008
Henry Morgan
ZEPHRYHILLS - Henry Ben Morgan wanted to save his pets.
Instead, he ended up in handcuffs and at least three dogs and a cat perished in the blaze that destroyed his home.
Just before 11 a.m. today, firefighters were called to 35615 Chester Drive and arrived 12 minutes later, finding the home engulfed in flames.
At some point, Morgan's wife arrived, followed by Morgan a few minutes later, said Pasco Fire Rescue Assistant Chief Mike Ciccarello.
Morgan started running for the house. Sheriff's deputies and firefighters yelled for him to stay back, but he kept going toward a window.
Deputies and firefighters, according to a report, restrained him so he could not jump through the window and into the blaze.
Morgan, 41, was forcibly removed from the scene, the report states, and was arrested on charges of obstructing the extinguishment of a fire, a felony, and resisting arrest without violence, a misdemeanor, respectively.
He was being held at the Land O' Lakes Jail this evening. Bail was set at $5,150.
About 20 firefighters continued fighting the one-alarm fire but couldn't save the animals or the home, Ciccarello said.
"It looks like a total loss," he said.
The family of five, including two teenage girls and a 7-year-old boy, are being helped by the American Red Cross.
The fire began between a garage-turned-bedroom and a utility room in the small ranch home. The cause was a worn extension cord that had been run under a door, Ciccarello said.
No one was injured.
Reporter Lisa A. Davis can be reached at (727) 815-1083 or ldavis@tampatrib.com.
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Posted by ( mlamarca ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:08 pm.
I think the felony charge might be a little harsh, but the right thing was done to prevent him from finding the same fate as his pets.
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Posted by ( cancersucks ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:29 pm.
"No one was injured."eh?did you read what your wrote?"least three dogs and a cat perished "
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Posted by ( Steve ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:32 pm.
I think they might have arrested me too in that situation.
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Posted by ( steve1963 ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:36 pm.
i guess i should be shocked that cops here would arrest a distraught man trying to save his pets. (as though this is a crime) but i'm not. in the year i've been in florida, it's become painfully obvious to me that florida police are monsters who believe they can shoot anyone, arrest anyone, and do anthing to anyone just because they've got a badge. apparently the constitution doesn't apply here.
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Posted by ( oldcqr ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:50 pm.
Sheesh...There is something to be said about the difference between 'Letter of the law' and 'Spirit of the law'. The letter of the law may be a felony, but COME ON. The man was not in his right mind: 1 - his house was burning down, 2 - His pets were dying.Put him in custody, remove him from the scene. But charge him with a felony? That cop needs to be smacked upside the head with the reality stick.Hopefully the state/feds will decide to not prosecute this poor man.
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Posted by ( Old_Crusty ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:59 pm.
Mr. Morgan look 'em straight in the eyes and keep repeating the statement, "I want a trial by jury." Things will get a little 'squirmy' about then. ;-I
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Posted by ( UNCONSTITUTIONAL ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:03 pm.
He should not have been arrested at all. This is called "TEMPORARY INSANITY". Another jerk cop hiding behind basic probable cause for an arrest without any hope of a conviction unless his attorney sells him out for a plea deal. What a jerk cop.
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Posted by ( nunyo ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:06 pm.
yay cops!! way to serve and protect!!
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Posted by ( kimbo ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:21 pm.
Lose, Lose, Lose everybody loses.
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Posted by ( news_fan_pam ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:23 pm.
Somebody'd be bailing me out of jail too. So sorry for your loss Morgan family.
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Posted by ( undisclosedname ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:39 pm.
Wonder if Obama will help change some of these dumb laws,,,,,
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Posted by ( sowusay ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:47 pm.
Yeah! that's our wonderful legal system here in Florida these days...nothin' like kickin' em when their down. Question is, would they have still arrested him if it were his children he was trying to save. Well, to some people, thier pets are their children. I would have done the same as him, they should drop the charges, dismiss the case and let him get back to his family who needs him. The he11 with these cookie cutter BS laws, No compassion allowed.
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Posted by ( justice360 ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:48 pm.
first off, i am a fire fighter certified in this lovely state. for no reason should a fire fighter ever place hands on a person for trying to do what they should have been doing instead. give me a break a 1 alarm fire and you lost 4 pets and the whole house i have personaly fought a nice 3 alarm fire and managed to save the home or the pets, either / or something would and should of been saved! as for our lovely LEO's give me a break the man lost his home and family pets to charge him at all is ludicrous oh and last time i checked a home owner has the right to refuse the fire dept from putting out a fire on his property let alone from being on his property , unless the fire endangers other structures that do not belong to him . that officer should re-read his Florida state statutes . Good luck and God bless Mr. Morgan
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Posted by ( JC3 ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:53 pm.
You've got to be kidding. This poor family. By instinct, I would run to the fire as well. My pooch is a member of the family. I would guess the officer doesn't have pets. Or perhaps the Land O Lakes police are not close to their arrest quota for the month. geezzzee.
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Posted by ( gswife ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:00 pm.
Alright where are all the ones that was writing to chain inmates to the floors at??? This is FLORIDA you don't have to do anything wrong to land in jail! I bet he gets prison time for this after all he didn't get the pets out of the house before the fire broke out so that was his fault too... And they will get him for the fire also so that's an arson arrest... yep going away for that 85% most likely because he didn't have a gun... well lets hope there wasn't one in the house or he will be getting that 5 years plus the time for the obstructing the extinguishment of a fire, a felony, and resisting arrest without violence... hummm I think we are looking at about 15 to 20 years.. after all he is one of those CRIMINALS now.. Heck where's the DA in all this?????? They should nail him to the wall... now lets see what else the DA can put on him.. oh.. guess what I forgot the cops pulling him back from the fire...... he put their lives in danger getting them to close to a burning building... that's attempted murder of a police officer... put him on Death Row... that takes care of everything now! :) Why are you all so surprised??
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Posted by ( hemi_girl ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:17 pm.
I feel terrible for this entire family. The children and mom and dad lost everything in this fire including their family pets. Now, the police put the husband in jail???? Outrageous!! Now the family not only has to replace everything, find a place to live, clothes to wear right before the holidays PLUS come up with bail money to get dad out of jail. This is disgusting and I ask the Land O Lakes police department "where is the humanity in this???" My thoughts and prayers to the entire family for their loss today.
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Posted by ( Turbomom ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:30 pm.
"No one was injured" Um, five dead pets, a family homeless, and did you get a look at his face in the mug shot? That looks like insult added to injury!
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Posted by ( Great ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:40 pm.
How did his running in the house prevent them from extinguishing the fire? They need to keep spraying and the fire would go out. He should be charged with
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Posted by ( Great ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:41 pm.
attempted suicide.
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Posted by ( Concerned1963 ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:51 pm.
Extinguishment is a WORD?? Seriously though, unless we're missing a big piece of the puzzle here, this poor guy ought to be left alone so he can comfort his family. I guess it's a felony to be human in Zephyrhills.
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Posted by ( renewingvows28 ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:53 pm.
he was just bonded out..thats pasco finest...what if it was their pets? no one would be able to stop them..
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Posted by ( armyvet ) on 11/21/2008 at 09:27 pm.
yes sirey, i got my felony arrest for the week. see capt, im out here really dong my job, promote me please
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Posted by ( GF ) on 11/21/2008 at 09:46 pm.
Lost home, lost pets, gained felony, tough day. Put me on that jury.
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Posted by ( northofcuba ) on 11/21/2008 at 10:06 pm.
Only in Florida. Meanwhile people here drive drunk, kill someone and get away with it. Or the two last week who rob and killed the woman shopping, yet they had records as long as your arm. Anywhere else they would have been in jail.This story should be brought to the national media so once again the nation can look at FL and just shake its head.
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Posted by ( MyOpinion1 ) on 11/21/2008 at 10:59 pm.
Poor family. They lost everything and had to come up with bail money to boot. Nice way to be in the holiday spirit. How absurd.
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Posted by ( nobull ) on 11/22/2008 at 12:01 am.
Just more evidence that the Police here are awful! All those charges, and higher bail than the average Child Molester or Drug Dealer gets!He can walk away if he can afford 10k to take it to a trial by jury.The law is unfairly applied in this area, this is a JOKE!!!
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Posted by ( welshiesdad ) on 11/22/2008 at 12:15 am.
Words fail me for a change...
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Posted by ( nobull ) on 11/22/2008 at 12:25 am.
When an Employer or someone runs this man's record, they will see these charges & assume that he is some kind of thug. The record won't reflect the horrible circumstances.......how sad. The cop AND his boss need to be fired outright. How pathetic!
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Posted by ( bbdt ) on 11/22/2008 at 01:05 am.
Lets not leave out the judge who set the bail so high. WTF? Everyone should take a day and sit in court to just listen to the mockery of the justice system that occurs on a daily basis. It will scare the hell out of you to see how the court process works.
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Posted by ( reedylady ) on 11/22/2008 at 08:31 am.
I have been through what this family is going through now, and I can tell you that I would have done the same thing he did. I remember the shock of watching my home burn and knowing that I couldn't get my cats out. A friend tried to get in and get to them, but the police also stopped him.The difference being, the cops had brains enough to realize that you don't think too clearly in that situation and didn't arrest him! I can't believe that anyone could be this insensitive to the state of mind that that man was in!! I hope he fights this mess and wins!
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Posted by ( gswife ) on 11/22/2008 at 08:38 am.
Well he will be lucky to have a job now... he didn't call in and he was arrested.. if it was a big company so long buddy you can add him to the rest of us out here with no job! Lets just hope he didn't put this bail on a "card" because then he is really up a hose......... I really don't understand all of you you are the voting public of this state you voted in these laws and you are surprised at what they did... like what was said before go to a court house and sit in for the day and see what is going on in this state... they will most likely get im a Public Defender to handle the case and he will have him plead guilty so that they can put him on probation to save the man from having to do anything but stand up there in a $500.00 suit and smile at the judge the guy will go back to his family and have to live with that on his record!
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Posted by ( cyngc ) on 11/22/2008 at 09:38 am.
Arresting this man is a disgrace! I don't understand why the firemen or law enforement didn't act to save the pets. I guess the notices on my doors & windows "Rescue Us" are a waste. What would they have done if people were inside? I hope Mr. Morgan gets a good lawyer!
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Posted by ( demick ) on 11/22/2008 at 10:12 am.
If it was me I would have ran in their for my pets. My life wouldnt be the same without them..Thats BS for arresting him. These cops have nothing to do
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Posted by ( Bob2 ) on 11/22/2008 at 10:27 am.
Bubba Sponge loves to talk about how "Pro Law enforcement" he is, and how great his relationship is with all the local Sheriffs. Lets see how quick he is to call out White regarding this disgrace.
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Posted by ( Saulray ) on 11/22/2008 at 10:47 am.
Those of you blaming Florida, go back to where you you came from, where life is wonderful all day long. There are bad things happening to people all over this country. I agree this is F'd up, give the guy and his family a break. I want to know if there is a fund set up for them anywhere? God Bless you Morgan family.
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 11/22/2008 at 04:36 pm.
gad what scumbags. Too bad he wasn't shuffling crack, chokin his boo, leaving a woman to choke to death while he laughed, rear-ending his wife or molesting a child. All crimes which the firefighters have committed.We're NOT this desperate for help. GO AWAY. We'd rather go back to the bucket brigades.My neighbor (who is a fireman) used to come on my property and cut my extension cords. YES HE DID. Got him on video. And I wonder why that is??Funny how these folks weren't home and all the sudden up jumps a fire.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMr. Morgan and family, sorry about your beloved pets and other belongings.Let us know where the real human beings NOT THE REDCROSS VAMPIRES and the CORRUPT firemen can send a few bucks your way.
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Pasco Man Jailed After Trying To Save Pets As Home Burns
By LISA A. DAVIS The Tampa Tribune
Published: November 21, 2008
Henry Morgan
ZEPHRYHILLS - Henry Ben Morgan wanted to save his pets.
Instead, he ended up in handcuffs and at least three dogs and a cat perished in the blaze that destroyed his home.
Just before 11 a.m. today, firefighters were called to 35615 Chester Drive and arrived 12 minutes later, finding the home engulfed in flames.
At some point, Morgan's wife arrived, followed by Morgan a few minutes later, said Pasco Fire Rescue Assistant Chief Mike Ciccarello.
Morgan started running for the house. Sheriff's deputies and firefighters yelled for him to stay back, but he kept going toward a window.
Deputies and firefighters, according to a report, restrained him so he could not jump through the window and into the blaze.
Morgan, 41, was forcibly removed from the scene, the report states, and was arrested on charges of obstructing the extinguishment of a fire, a felony, and resisting arrest without violence, a misdemeanor, respectively.
He was being held at the Land O' Lakes Jail this evening. Bail was set at $5,150.
About 20 firefighters continued fighting the one-alarm fire but couldn't save the animals or the home, Ciccarello said.
"It looks like a total loss," he said.
The family of five, including two teenage girls and a 7-year-old boy, are being helped by the American Red Cross.
The fire began between a garage-turned-bedroom and a utility room in the small ranch home. The cause was a worn extension cord that had been run under a door, Ciccarello said.
No one was injured.
Reporter Lisa A. Davis can be reached at (727) 815-1083 or ldavis@tampatrib.com.
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Posted by ( mlamarca ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:08 pm.
I think the felony charge might be a little harsh, but the right thing was done to prevent him from finding the same fate as his pets.
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Posted by ( cancersucks ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:29 pm.
"No one was injured."eh?did you read what your wrote?"least three dogs and a cat perished "
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Posted by ( Steve ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:32 pm.
I think they might have arrested me too in that situation.
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Posted by ( steve1963 ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:36 pm.
i guess i should be shocked that cops here would arrest a distraught man trying to save his pets. (as though this is a crime) but i'm not. in the year i've been in florida, it's become painfully obvious to me that florida police are monsters who believe they can shoot anyone, arrest anyone, and do anthing to anyone just because they've got a badge. apparently the constitution doesn't apply here.
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Posted by ( oldcqr ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:50 pm.
Sheesh...There is something to be said about the difference between 'Letter of the law' and 'Spirit of the law'. The letter of the law may be a felony, but COME ON. The man was not in his right mind: 1 - his house was burning down, 2 - His pets were dying.Put him in custody, remove him from the scene. But charge him with a felony? That cop needs to be smacked upside the head with the reality stick.Hopefully the state/feds will decide to not prosecute this poor man.
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Posted by ( Old_Crusty ) on 11/21/2008 at 06:59 pm.
Mr. Morgan look 'em straight in the eyes and keep repeating the statement, "I want a trial by jury." Things will get a little 'squirmy' about then. ;-I
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Posted by ( UNCONSTITUTIONAL ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:03 pm.
He should not have been arrested at all. This is called "TEMPORARY INSANITY". Another jerk cop hiding behind basic probable cause for an arrest without any hope of a conviction unless his attorney sells him out for a plea deal. What a jerk cop.
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Posted by ( nunyo ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:06 pm.
yay cops!! way to serve and protect!!
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Posted by ( kimbo ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:21 pm.
Lose, Lose, Lose everybody loses.
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Posted by ( news_fan_pam ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:23 pm.
Somebody'd be bailing me out of jail too. So sorry for your loss Morgan family.
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Posted by ( undisclosedname ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:39 pm.
Wonder if Obama will help change some of these dumb laws,,,,,
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Posted by ( sowusay ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:47 pm.
Yeah! that's our wonderful legal system here in Florida these days...nothin' like kickin' em when their down. Question is, would they have still arrested him if it were his children he was trying to save. Well, to some people, thier pets are their children. I would have done the same as him, they should drop the charges, dismiss the case and let him get back to his family who needs him. The he11 with these cookie cutter BS laws, No compassion allowed.
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Posted by ( justice360 ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:48 pm.
first off, i am a fire fighter certified in this lovely state. for no reason should a fire fighter ever place hands on a person for trying to do what they should have been doing instead. give me a break a 1 alarm fire and you lost 4 pets and the whole house i have personaly fought a nice 3 alarm fire and managed to save the home or the pets, either / or something would and should of been saved! as for our lovely LEO's give me a break the man lost his home and family pets to charge him at all is ludicrous oh and last time i checked a home owner has the right to refuse the fire dept from putting out a fire on his property let alone from being on his property , unless the fire endangers other structures that do not belong to him . that officer should re-read his Florida state statutes . Good luck and God bless Mr. Morgan
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Posted by ( JC3 ) on 11/21/2008 at 07:53 pm.
You've got to be kidding. This poor family. By instinct, I would run to the fire as well. My pooch is a member of the family. I would guess the officer doesn't have pets. Or perhaps the Land O Lakes police are not close to their arrest quota for the month. geezzzee.
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Posted by ( gswife ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:00 pm.
Alright where are all the ones that was writing to chain inmates to the floors at??? This is FLORIDA you don't have to do anything wrong to land in jail! I bet he gets prison time for this after all he didn't get the pets out of the house before the fire broke out so that was his fault too... And they will get him for the fire also so that's an arson arrest... yep going away for that 85% most likely because he didn't have a gun... well lets hope there wasn't one in the house or he will be getting that 5 years plus the time for the obstructing the extinguishment of a fire, a felony, and resisting arrest without violence... hummm I think we are looking at about 15 to 20 years.. after all he is one of those CRIMINALS now.. Heck where's the DA in all this?????? They should nail him to the wall... now lets see what else the DA can put on him.. oh.. guess what I forgot the cops pulling him back from the fire...... he put their lives in danger getting them to close to a burning building... that's attempted murder of a police officer... put him on Death Row... that takes care of everything now! :) Why are you all so surprised??
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Posted by ( hemi_girl ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:17 pm.
I feel terrible for this entire family. The children and mom and dad lost everything in this fire including their family pets. Now, the police put the husband in jail???? Outrageous!! Now the family not only has to replace everything, find a place to live, clothes to wear right before the holidays PLUS come up with bail money to get dad out of jail. This is disgusting and I ask the Land O Lakes police department "where is the humanity in this???" My thoughts and prayers to the entire family for their loss today.
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Posted by ( Turbomom ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:30 pm.
"No one was injured" Um, five dead pets, a family homeless, and did you get a look at his face in the mug shot? That looks like insult added to injury!
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Posted by ( Great ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:40 pm.
How did his running in the house prevent them from extinguishing the fire? They need to keep spraying and the fire would go out. He should be charged with
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Posted by ( Great ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:41 pm.
attempted suicide.
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Posted by ( Concerned1963 ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:51 pm.
Extinguishment is a WORD?? Seriously though, unless we're missing a big piece of the puzzle here, this poor guy ought to be left alone so he can comfort his family. I guess it's a felony to be human in Zephyrhills.
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Posted by ( renewingvows28 ) on 11/21/2008 at 08:53 pm.
he was just bonded out..thats pasco finest...what if it was their pets? no one would be able to stop them..
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Posted by ( armyvet ) on 11/21/2008 at 09:27 pm.
yes sirey, i got my felony arrest for the week. see capt, im out here really dong my job, promote me please
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Posted by ( GF ) on 11/21/2008 at 09:46 pm.
Lost home, lost pets, gained felony, tough day. Put me on that jury.
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Posted by ( northofcuba ) on 11/21/2008 at 10:06 pm.
Only in Florida. Meanwhile people here drive drunk, kill someone and get away with it. Or the two last week who rob and killed the woman shopping, yet they had records as long as your arm. Anywhere else they would have been in jail.This story should be brought to the national media so once again the nation can look at FL and just shake its head.
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Posted by ( MyOpinion1 ) on 11/21/2008 at 10:59 pm.
Poor family. They lost everything and had to come up with bail money to boot. Nice way to be in the holiday spirit. How absurd.
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Posted by ( nobull ) on 11/22/2008 at 12:01 am.
Just more evidence that the Police here are awful! All those charges, and higher bail than the average Child Molester or Drug Dealer gets!He can walk away if he can afford 10k to take it to a trial by jury.The law is unfairly applied in this area, this is a JOKE!!!
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Posted by ( welshiesdad ) on 11/22/2008 at 12:15 am.
Words fail me for a change...
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Posted by ( nobull ) on 11/22/2008 at 12:25 am.
When an Employer or someone runs this man's record, they will see these charges & assume that he is some kind of thug. The record won't reflect the horrible circumstances.......how sad. The cop AND his boss need to be fired outright. How pathetic!
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Posted by ( bbdt ) on 11/22/2008 at 01:05 am.
Lets not leave out the judge who set the bail so high. WTF? Everyone should take a day and sit in court to just listen to the mockery of the justice system that occurs on a daily basis. It will scare the hell out of you to see how the court process works.
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Posted by ( reedylady ) on 11/22/2008 at 08:31 am.
I have been through what this family is going through now, and I can tell you that I would have done the same thing he did. I remember the shock of watching my home burn and knowing that I couldn't get my cats out. A friend tried to get in and get to them, but the police also stopped him.The difference being, the cops had brains enough to realize that you don't think too clearly in that situation and didn't arrest him! I can't believe that anyone could be this insensitive to the state of mind that that man was in!! I hope he fights this mess and wins!
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Posted by ( gswife ) on 11/22/2008 at 08:38 am.
Well he will be lucky to have a job now... he didn't call in and he was arrested.. if it was a big company so long buddy you can add him to the rest of us out here with no job! Lets just hope he didn't put this bail on a "card" because then he is really up a hose......... I really don't understand all of you you are the voting public of this state you voted in these laws and you are surprised at what they did... like what was said before go to a court house and sit in for the day and see what is going on in this state... they will most likely get im a Public Defender to handle the case and he will have him plead guilty so that they can put him on probation to save the man from having to do anything but stand up there in a $500.00 suit and smile at the judge the guy will go back to his family and have to live with that on his record!
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Posted by ( cyngc ) on 11/22/2008 at 09:38 am.
Arresting this man is a disgrace! I don't understand why the firemen or law enforement didn't act to save the pets. I guess the notices on my doors & windows "Rescue Us" are a waste. What would they have done if people were inside? I hope Mr. Morgan gets a good lawyer!
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Posted by ( demick ) on 11/22/2008 at 10:12 am.
If it was me I would have ran in their for my pets. My life wouldnt be the same without them..Thats BS for arresting him. These cops have nothing to do
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Posted by ( Bob2 ) on 11/22/2008 at 10:27 am.
Bubba Sponge loves to talk about how "Pro Law enforcement" he is, and how great his relationship is with all the local Sheriffs. Lets see how quick he is to call out White regarding this disgrace.
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Posted by ( Saulray ) on 11/22/2008 at 10:47 am.
Those of you blaming Florida, go back to where you you came from, where life is wonderful all day long. There are bad things happening to people all over this country. I agree this is F'd up, give the guy and his family a break. I want to know if there is a fund set up for them anywhere? God Bless you Morgan family.
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Posted by ( TOOPRETTYforprison ) on 11/22/2008 at 04:36 pm.
gad what scumbags. Too bad he wasn't shuffling crack, chokin his boo, leaving a woman to choke to death while he laughed, rear-ending his wife or molesting a child. All crimes which the firefighters have committed.We're NOT this desperate for help. GO AWAY. We'd rather go back to the bucket brigades.My neighbor (who is a fireman) used to come on my property and cut my extension cords. YES HE DID. Got him on video. And I wonder why that is??Funny how these folks weren't home and all the sudden up jumps a fire.hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMr. Morgan and family, sorry about your beloved pets and other belongings.Let us know where the real human beings NOT THE REDCROSS VAMPIRES and the CORRUPT firemen can send a few bucks your way.
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