one of the kids probably going around committing murders... fuckin A.. just finding out about THIS MONTHS LATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least the kid has the nuts to go in face first rather than sneaking around under peoples' fucking cars like peter claudio and the keller/tome gang. Firefighters IN TAMPA ARE AT LEAST NINETY PERCENT SCUM. And yes most of their wives are stalking sluts. The kids apparently ain't much better (BIG FUCKING SURPRISE THERE being raised by pieces of shit and sluts)
Son of Tampa fire investigator used his gun in St. Petersburg robbery, police say
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St. Petersburg police identified the Tampa investigator as Melton Jenkins and said Jenkins' son had been arrested in the robbery.
The fire investigator did not report the loss of his weapon in a timely manner, a department spokesman said.
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houseman Dec 10, 2010 3:30 PM About 1 hour ago
Oh by the way, that investigator's name wasn't Barney Fife, was it?????
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Richard Tator Dec 10, 2010 3:36 PM About 1 hour ago
Barney would never let that happen.
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toopriddyforprison Dec 10, 2010 4:13 PM About 13 minutes ago
Alcala. Or .... maybe the one who just got caught stalking. Name witheld to protect HIS VICTIM. Big black dude. How can they be sure THE GUN is the only thing that was there? Sounds pretty fishy to me. Didn't report it in a timely fashion. Um. OR: Reported it when the moron got caught with it. Probably a friend, relative or himself. Um. Fire him. Morons. They NEVER get fired. They go to prison for child molesting and DO NOT GET FIRED. And you pay them.
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toopriddyforprison Dec 10, 2010 4:19 PM About 7 minutes ago
Interesting. They used to have all their names listed (the investigators) that came down some time within the last week. When did THIS sordid tale emerge??
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toopriddyforprison Dec 10, 2010 4:22 PM About 4 minutes ago
And, since he fabricates reports to cover up meth labs THAT was my second choice. Now let me go rake that over a bit. Wonder how many times he has "lost" his gun or why they even HAVE guns. Guns AND drugs. Like gangsters. oooh. Maybe because THEY ARE. This totally makes up for jane castor not arresting any of them for so long coinciding with the uprisal of tom forward that it's suspicious compared to the old stats of MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK. Who the heck does the hiring for this dept?? AL CAPONE????
Friday, December 10, 2010
Saturday, December 4, 2010
Thursday, December 2, 2010
lil miz jessica and fireman tag number IC1QI
that's eye cee one q eye. A regular.... There were others. I think they were on their way home from a big crack deal.
wow. THAT got the boys wound up. Well, if you want to stalk people you know some people will TELL THE WORLD ABOUT IT.
And this is the behaviour you need to correct.
Instead you wind it back up again.
Jessica .... never mind what I think ... yo romance done fall apart?
He got a real whiff of the REAL YOU??
Sure that didn't take long.
I was going to call him and tell him you were a stalker anyway.
He should KNOW.
Stalking is a very violent crime ... one wonders if that's what went wrong there with your ummm kids.
or a lil sumpin sumpin in the bloodstream.
Mess with us: GET HOSED.
Sound familiar?
buncha pussy ass GED idiots.
wow. THAT got the boys wound up. Well, if you want to stalk people you know some people will TELL THE WORLD ABOUT IT.
And this is the behaviour you need to correct.
Instead you wind it back up again.
Jessica .... never mind what I think ... yo romance done fall apart?
He got a real whiff of the REAL YOU??
Sure that didn't take long.
I was going to call him and tell him you were a stalker anyway.
He should KNOW.
Stalking is a very violent crime ... one wonders if that's what went wrong there with your ummm kids.
or a lil sumpin sumpin in the bloodstream.
Mess with us: GET HOSED.
Sound familiar?
buncha pussy ass GED idiots.
Wednesday, December 1, 2010
q62 kzr or u62kzr
losers piled on losers frosted with losers and washed down w/ a lil cheap vodka.
And there ya have it: lutz. I mean .. stolen lakefront property .. whatever.
go fuck yourself fatass ... ya look like a walmart piece of shit.
get laid.
Ask Jessica. I heard she's easy as PIE.
And there ya have it: lutz. I mean .. stolen lakefront property .. whatever.
go fuck yourself fatass ... ya look like a walmart piece of shit.
get laid.
Ask Jessica. I heard she's easy as PIE.
YA5LK YA5LD and YA5LA
UPDATE: It's LESS THAN A MINUTE from Tome-Gay's house. Nice nasty little circle of thieves and murderers. Here's one of the pictures of the bitch we finally took after like TWENTY TIMES. WAY WAY BACK.
Dear Henry .. it MIGHT start something like this:: Yknow the bald guy who ran around with Jon Gruden is also closely associated with car 644 of the TPD but better with the 'one who wanted to check on 'us people'' when we were by HENRY'S RENTAL DUMP purchased with who KNOWS WHAT MONEY. Or we might say ... go back to ummmmmmm 1975?? was it???? Was IT?? And drag anthony angel the realtor who doesn't know street names but quickly followed hannah up with MORANDA and then Janie Tyler the slut whose father was the professional pig of whatever street. After that we'll point out how the sluts rode all over a kid like tiny prostitutes but REALLY it all started with dear Hank. And then dear Hank's budddeeee Roberto Bautiste You guys can go fuck yourselves.
I never did mention the ABOVE TAG Ya5LK belongs to Jessica Dodson formerly of the YMCA GANDY .. the reason I never did mention this was because I did NOT know ... dark windows like every fire slut and pig, yknow. She has a new tag now and a new understanding. I'll put hte new tag here same as Spence Roberts whom Jessica had the fourth tag in line from??? Spence was Ya5LD and Ya5LA was a Publix Employee and may still be but doubtful.. funny how those shiny new tags lost their luster. Well, what GETS BETTER about this jessica Dodson person besides the obvious intermarrying and the interesting names which pop up is that dear stalking Jessica whose tag was here LONG BEFORE I HAD ANY IDEA WHO WAS IN THAT CAR and who followed me to place after place with another scumbag Andres and a whole krewe of losers but guess what we done did find out ???YUP. Dear Jessica lives at 520 lincoln or 518 ... guess what CROSS STREET? That's RIGHT: HORATIO. Now, guess who lives within rolling distance?? that's RIGHT: JOSE TOME. And then Jessica's dear friend shannon over there on IOWA who is ... well, we all know who he is related to now don't we/??? Which leads right back to bobby O'Neill and Christine Breen. The whore mongers. So anyway... just wanted to mark this day down. A fine one for the charts.
YA5LK YA5LD
Now while I see NOTHING of you three stalkers and family and associates lately I DO see many of your scummers around my family.
I'd draw that to a close but you're not as smart as I am.
You can't compare ROBINSON to PRIVATE EDUCATION and come off smarter.
Just so you on the right page.
Keep fucking around.
My X used to say ... fuck around fuck around soon ya won't be around.
I think THE X meant you go off to prison or somethin somethin.
Not too sure.
But it applies somewhere I'm sure.
Robinson such a SMALL school and all yall back in da hood think you all up in the koolaid.
Dear Henry .. it MIGHT start something like this:: Yknow the bald guy who ran around with Jon Gruden is also closely associated with car 644 of the TPD but better with the 'one who wanted to check on 'us people'' when we were by HENRY'S RENTAL DUMP purchased with who KNOWS WHAT MONEY. Or we might say ... go back to ummmmmmm 1975?? was it???? Was IT?? And drag anthony angel the realtor who doesn't know street names but quickly followed hannah up with MORANDA and then Janie Tyler the slut whose father was the professional pig of whatever street. After that we'll point out how the sluts rode all over a kid like tiny prostitutes but REALLY it all started with dear Hank. And then dear Hank's budddeeee Roberto Bautiste You guys can go fuck yourselves.
I never did mention the ABOVE TAG Ya5LK belongs to Jessica Dodson formerly of the YMCA GANDY .. the reason I never did mention this was because I did NOT know ... dark windows like every fire slut and pig, yknow. She has a new tag now and a new understanding. I'll put hte new tag here same as Spence Roberts whom Jessica had the fourth tag in line from??? Spence was Ya5LD and Ya5LA was a Publix Employee and may still be but doubtful.. funny how those shiny new tags lost their luster. Well, what GETS BETTER about this jessica Dodson person besides the obvious intermarrying and the interesting names which pop up is that dear stalking Jessica whose tag was here LONG BEFORE I HAD ANY IDEA WHO WAS IN THAT CAR and who followed me to place after place with another scumbag Andres and a whole krewe of losers but guess what we done did find out ???YUP. Dear Jessica lives at 520 lincoln or 518 ... guess what CROSS STREET? That's RIGHT: HORATIO. Now, guess who lives within rolling distance?? that's RIGHT: JOSE TOME. And then Jessica's dear friend shannon over there on IOWA who is ... well, we all know who he is related to now don't we/??? Which leads right back to bobby O'Neill and Christine Breen. The whore mongers. So anyway... just wanted to mark this day down. A fine one for the charts.
YA5LK YA5LD
Now while I see NOTHING of you three stalkers and family and associates lately I DO see many of your scummers around my family.
I'd draw that to a close but you're not as smart as I am.
You can't compare ROBINSON to PRIVATE EDUCATION and come off smarter.
Just so you on the right page.
Keep fucking around.
My X used to say ... fuck around fuck around soon ya won't be around.
I think THE X meant you go off to prison or somethin somethin.
Not too sure.
But it applies somewhere I'm sure.
Robinson such a SMALL school and all yall back in da hood think you all up in the koolaid.
Sunday, November 28, 2010
Firefighter license tags
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q367cu
T153F firepig w/cracked windshield
Haven't got time for pictures and am missing numerous ones from every day.
But one day soon will get them up here.
q367cu
T153F firepig w/cracked windshield
Haven't got time for pictures and am missing numerous ones from every day.
But one day soon will get them up here.
Tuesday, November 9, 2010
keller tampa firemen crack houses
Tampa house fire put out, causes no injuries
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TAMPA — Electrical problems may have caused a house fire Sunday afternoon, according to Tampa Fire Rescue.
A crew put out the flames at a house at 2116 W Nassau St. at about 12:45 p.m. No injuries were reported, but the house suffered moderate damage.
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drunkydrivecaddy wrote:
so tired of the lies
Nov 9, 2010 7:48 AM
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mikekellercrackhouses wrote:
Yup. Ain't nary one of my crackhouses or labs ever blowed up. Ya need a few tampa firemen and a few dirty cops. And Paul Mumford, sergeant or whatever to stage shootouts if the only decent people around get tired of the crack monkeys on your porch.
Nov 9, 2010 8:21 AM
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A crew put out the flames at a house at 2116 W Nassau St. at about 12:45 p.m. No injuries were reported, but the house suffered moderate damage.
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drunkydrivecaddy wrote:
so tired of the lies
Nov 9, 2010 7:48 AM
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mikekellercrackhouses wrote:
Yup. Ain't nary one of my crackhouses or labs ever blowed up. Ya need a few tampa firemen and a few dirty cops. And Paul Mumford, sergeant or whatever to stage shootouts if the only decent people around get tired of the crack monkeys on your porch.
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Monday, October 18, 2010
tampa fireman arrested but not published???
It has been SO LONG since a tampa fireman has been arrested... ACTUALLY I think it's been that LONG since they cut the deal w/the local papers to stop publishign it...... since Tom Forward.
TOM:::: Where are the fireman arrests for Tampa/?? I know there must be DOZENS. They average one a week.
Polk firefighter arrested on sex charges
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LAKE COUNTY, Fla - Sexual battery charges have been filed against a Polk County firefighter after an investigation by the Department of Children and Families in Lake County.
DCF began their investigation earlier this week after they received a report about a 14-year-old who was allegedly involved in inappropriate behavior with Mark Weiss.
They believe in June, Weiss enticed the teen to expose herself to him. The acts progressed to inappropriate touching and eventually sexual battery with the girl, according to DCF.
Weiss refused to talk with Lake County detectives on October 14. He was arrested and held on $25,000 bond.
Officials are not releasing details about the victim or victim's relationship to Weiss.
Friday, October 15, 2010
Spence Spence the ARSONIST.. and James D Mason
Pasco reduces fire engine staffing amid budget crunch
By Jodie Tillman, Times Staff Writer In Print: Friday, October 15, 2010
Pasco County taxpayers may be paying more for fire protection this year, but so far they are getting less for their money: Over the weekend, four engines began running with fewer firefighters.
That means those particular engines could roll up to scenes with just two firefighters on board — one fewer person than they have now and two fewer than a national standard for getting enough personnel on scene to battle structure fires quickly and safely.
Chief Anthony Lopinto said the decision to reduce crew sizes on four of the county's 21 engines results from this: The firefighters union is demanding merit raises that even the additional tax revenue won't cover.
The higher tax rate approved by county commissioners last month — $1.43 per $1,000 in taxable property, a 23-cent increase over last fiscal year — essentially kept the Fire Rescue Department whole, covering increased health and pension costs plus the costs of hiring 15 people to reduce overtime.
"I'm preparing for the fiscal reality of that," Lopinto said of the proposed union raises. "We did this early on so it's not drastic."
Firefighters gave up their merit increases last year. For this year, they propose getting only 60 percent of what they would be due if full raises were in place.
Union president Ralph Grant said that concession will save $223,225 in the first year and $480,000 in the second year.
He said officials jumped the gun on reducing crew sizes so soon; he said they could have waited until new hires come on to see if that reduces overtime costs enough to free up money to pay for everything.
The 15 new hires are expected to finish orientation by January. Another 14 new hires who are filling once-frozen vacancies will come on board this month.
"We're still trying to resolve the solutions," said Grant. "We are trying to work it out. What he's doing is pre-emptive."
Lopinto said county officials are still crunching the numbers to see how much the union's proposal will cost them. He also said he did not have a figure yet on how much the reduced crews on the four engines will save.
The engines with reduced crews include one from the station behind Kmart in New Port Richey and one from Centennial Road in east Pasco. The other two will be on a rotating basis, depending on how many firefighters call in sick on a particular day.
The main reason that experts say engines should be staffed with at least four people? The "two-in, two-out" rule.
That means two firefighters should not enter a burning building unless there are two more of them on the outside, ready to help if something goes wrong. If two firefighters have to wait for another truck to bring two partners, there could be a critical delay.
Under Lopinto's leadership, Pasco Fire Rescue had worked its way up from two workers per truck to three. The emphasis has been sending rescue cars and other support vehicles with the engines to get enough personnel on scene.
But requiring that every engine have three firefighters means dipping into overtime if enough firefighters are out sick or on vacation on any given shift. Officials will save money — in overtime salaries for up to four workers per shift — if they don't require three people on those four engines.
About 15 percent of the 47,000 calls each year to Pasco Fire Rescue are for fires. Traffic accidents would not require a backup engine to respond, Lopinto said.
If rescue cars can't get two more firefighters to a scene, Lopinto said the engine can call for backup from the closest station.
"What we'll expect is that they'll have the same number of people responding to the call," he said. "Is it preferable to have those people early on? Yes, it is. But we're dealing with financial realities."
Grant, the union president, said the potential delays — say, if backup help is on another call — aren't worth the savings. "We're dead set against it," he said.
Grant said the union is insisting on partial raises this year because Pasco firefighters are among the lowest paid in the area. Other county employees did not get raises, but Grant said, "They don't have a contract."
Grant said he told county administrator John Gallagher when they met for negotiations four months ago to plan on raises. "I told Mr. Gallagher to budget for it, and they didn't," he said. "We're trying to work with them."
County personnel director Barbara DeSimone said she's hoping administrators and the union can come to some sort of agreement in coming weeks. But she said raises are a tough sell in this economy.
Commissioners, she said, "aren't going to increase taxes to pay for raises."
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mes7709 wrote:
were demanding raises lopinto? really im pretty sure the county knew they screwed up and they were gonna have to pay us and you know what as a matter of fact i am DEMANDING my raise because im under paid over worked and pissed off i even stayed in this county you sir have a serious morale problem in your department and going on record saying things like that DOES NOT HELP. we have some of the best firefighters in the area i would put up against anyone this county needs to give us what we deserve and thats RESPECT! 2 man engines you gotta be kidding me
Oct 14, 2010 12:57 PM
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desert scorpion wrote:
Nice to see some austerity in county government. I am ready to accept any consequences.
Oct 14, 2010 1:11 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
pig. Now fire those thieving mobsters and HIRE PEOPLE who would be grateful for the job not these INGRATES who stalk people. Have people noted the big red Rs gracing bldgs?? They've got some NEW SCAM going.
Oct 14, 2010 1:52 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
Now beware of the "arsons" going up and/or the houses burning down while family is out and ONLY TWO GUYS THERE. Fine. We'll go back to the bucket brigades. It would be more effective and less THEFT would be committed. I am so sick to death of these thugs getting the only jobs they're able to get with GEDs besides picking up trash and then THIEVING. Screw them.
Oct 14, 2010 1:55 PM
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The Captain wrote:
Ah yes, the almighty "union".....
Oct 14, 2010 2:03 PM
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meatballredoo wrote:
Firefighters are like guns....when you need one, absolutely positively nothing else will do. I invest in quality guns, and am willing to invest in quality fire/EMS protection. Pay the fellas, and charge me the measley $.25 per thousand on my tax bill. For most of the rednecks reading this, that only amounts to $20 a year.
Oct 14, 2010 2:06 PM
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pascofailspublic wrote:
Paying more for less is a common acurance up here in 2002 2003 the county assessed Fire tax in 5 volunteer districts they merge back into the county and then left theM as unmanned stations some still to this day THATS PAYING ALOT FOR NOTHING.
The firefigthers aren't demanding the raise it was in the contract that the COUNTY agreed to SO GET IT RIGHT YOU KNEW. The dept fires liers
This county has no interest in public safty it was very apparent by the commissioners at the meeting with the sheriff it is apparent with the fire dept These guys are under paid, and work more hours then surrounding dept. And the citizens are the ones that suffer the most with: lack of manpower on scenes, long response times to calls, and a dept that lacks station, equipment, manpower,Specilized equipment and teams.
THIS COUNTY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF MISMANGMENT THATS STARTES AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. THIS KNEE JERK REDUCATION IN STAFFING IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WILL END UP IN A TRAGEDY.
Oct 14, 2010 2:16 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
Pasco County Fire Fighters have been underpaid & mistreated since our inception of a professional fire/rescue organization. We started a union a few years to protect ourselves. Our working conditions have been extremely dangerous, ultimately making it less safe for the county's residents. Let me say that we are all grateful to have jobs and love what we do! That being said... The county and the firefighters agreed upon a contract which included merit raises. The county and the fire chief knew ahead of to budget for this but FAILED to do so! Last year firefighters voluntarily gave up their raises to help the county with the understanding that the next year they would budget for it like they were supposed to do in the first place. The county has had several opportunities to renegotiate this issue with the union but could not come to a resonable agreement. So now, because the county and fire chief can budget their money correctly they are taking it out on the public...(to be continued)
Oct 14, 2010 2:44 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
by short staffing engine companies which could affect the outcome of YOUR emergency. Whoever said said this staffing issue would only affect building fires is wrong. Cardiac and respiratory arrests, vehicle extrications, water rescues, brush fires, obese patients require an all hands on deck approach. There is no time to wait for more units to get to the scene. I didn't even include any kind of special rescue team, because we have none. You would have to wait over an hour for another dept. to come into our county, to do our work for us because we don't have the money. Nobody in PCFR is looking to become millionaires by doing this thankless job. We just want to be compensated fairly and comparably to every surrounding fire dept. Many very good firefighters, EMTs, and paramedics leave PCFR for other places because they pay much more and have better health benefits. It is not fair for the county to blame us firefighters for thier own faults! Commissioners, do your part and we'll do ours!
Oct 14, 2010 3:07 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
gulliversailer- I don't know where you get your information about our education standands, but I'll bet you have never met a firefighter with just a GED. We all go through fire academy and at least EMT school. Most now are paramedics so add that on. We all participate in continuing education year round after we are on the job and hold several state and national certifications. Oh, and it takes many more college classes to get promoted to driver, captain and chief. Most firefighters today have degrees in several fields because of the competition to even get promoted. So next time, before you go off on a subject that you have no clue what you are talking about, if you don't know, you better ask somebody!
Oct 14, 2010 3:21 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
BOOM!!! I'm out!
Oct 14, 2010 3:21 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
haha..eat that
Oct 14, 2010 3:55 PM
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smokeydabear wrote:
Pasco County hates its firefighters!
Oct 14, 2010 4:04 PM
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smokeydabear wrote:
Lopinto is a liar just like many other officers that work for Pasco fire rescue!
Oct 14, 2010 4:05 PM
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PCFR_Medic wrote:
Why cant the reporter put a little disclaimer at the end of every article saying "My reporting of this story is biased as John Gallagher is a member of my family through marriage"
Typical nonsense. People hate us anyways for whatever reason, I might as well not be below the poverty line doing it.
Oct 14, 2010 4:16 PM
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clhf wrote:
So sad to read all the negative comments posted towards the Firefighters of Pasco Co. These men & women put there lives on the line everyday for you and your family members. Try showing them a little respect. They do their job for little pay, all they are asking for is what they deserve. To bring home enough money to take care of their families and to be safe at work. That's not to much to ask for. I'm sure it is no less than what you would expect from your employer. When the day comes and you or one of your loved ones needs them, perhaps then you will realize the respect they deserve and give it to them.
Oct 14, 2010 5:28 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
Underpaid...... thats what pasco firefighters have dealt with for years... thats why out turnover rate is amazing. over 1000 in 10 years.. and its only a 400 man dept to start out with..Now they want to reduce engine sizes... humm lets see... how much is your parents or child worth if their life is in danger? I guess by the county's standards not much.. because now you will get "green" people and not enough of them to make a change.. A year ago they cheated the ISO rating by staffing some stations with people that wont be fighting fire/ or accident mitigation .. ie chiefs and air trucks just to meet the ISO's Staffing requirements... Just another example of cheating to get by..So what the heck.. keep it going.. cheat the public's safety to get by huh? well Mr/Mrs public... prepare for longer response times/ less service/ decreased chances of survival/ and increased insurance premiums when the insurance companies get ahold of this info...sleep safe
Oct 14, 2010 5:30 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
maybe someone should ask why station 39 ( next to Lapino's house) got built before other stations that were set to be built..bumped to the front of the line.. wouldnt have anything to do with lowering his insurance rates would it??? nawww
and for grant.... 3% WTF??? after years of hearing their underpaid.. and selling to give up a raise... you come back at them with 3%....Just makes you wonder why the moral in this department is at a all time low..
If no one fights for the fire department..... what exactly makes you think they will risk everything and fight for you....
and Tillman, next time your at a family function.. lean over and ask Gallagher exactly what he wants you to write next time..
fair reporting my A$$
sleep tight pasco,, because if it was up to them you truly would be on your own
Oct 14, 2010 5:43 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
because for the most part they are thieves. Prove it pasco firefighter. Your degrees come from SPC or HCC or PHCC and are more aptly called certificates or associate's degrees. puleeze. No. You guys are pushy, egotistical, disgusting THIEVES. Stuff it. We really don't need you as much as you idiots have convinced yourselves we do. and lopinto is an outright thief. And likely a crack dealer living on top of the station like that. Who DOES THAT?Were you guys so happy with bob blackburn due to his facility in taking out victims you couldn't quite snow? People are ON TO YOU. Drive by my burning house. Not like you haven't done it ALREADY. More than once. And one of you living in one of them now. YOU don't have ANY clue what you are talking about OR more likely: just lying.
Oct 14, 2010 6:05 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
The veiled threats: as usual : from pascoboyz: sleep safe. sleep tight. If you guys didn't waste so much taxpayers' money STALKING PEOPLE and carting meth around to build your find houses and buy your gd hummers people wouldn't have caught on so fast. You're not heroes. You're barely human. Look at yourself in the mirror and SEE WHAT YOU ARE. Or ask my dead sister. And get your brother fireman the hell out of her stolen house.
Oct 14, 2010 6:08 PM
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@gulliversaliarYou must be related to John Gallagher & Jodie Tillman or maybe you are one of the 2 listed? I am a Firefighter with Pasco County Fire Rescue, and I am proud of it. I myself hold 2 degrees, 1 in EMS and 1 in Fire Science, and both are 4 year degrees. You call us "thieves"? Why is that? because we want to make considerable pay for the work we do? How much is your life worth? How much is the members of you families lives worth? We could down right put in place what they do in an area in TN were you pay for services or they don't come. Would you like that? Do you think operations are free? Do I have the right to provide to my family? feed them? provide them with shelter? I do believe so. You are ignorant my friend. Obviously you have something bad in your past, were you didn't get your college education and someone got a GED and passed college and got a Fire Dept Job. My god have mercy on your soul ... for your comments, KARMA will bite you in the ●●●!
Oct 14, 2010 6:14 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
@ the St Pete Times
I would like to say, I am proud to see the word out, but sad that it was reported wrongfully. How could you let this reporter who is family to John Gallagher writete this article?
St Pete Times, I would like to see some reaction to our concerns!
Oct 14, 2010 6:17 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
I am a firefighter with Pasco County. Proud of what I do, and make sure every day that when I go on duty I do the best job possible regardless of my pay or crew size. I am worried though for the safety of myself, my fellow brothers and sisters, my family who lives in the county and all other citizens of Pasco County. How can you, as residents of the county approve of such disregard to your safety by the commissioners of this county? I don't know what its going to take, maybe a death or serious injury of someone to turn on the light bulb so you can see what's happening. I am personally sicken by our operation dept and our union that they let this go on.
Please County Residents, call, write, email or show up to the county building and let your voices be heard on this!
Oct 14, 2010 6:22 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
@gulliversaliar
Make yourself known! Put your real name out there .. show your face! Don't put your lies about your "dead sister" on here!
As for meth, your are off your rocker!
"And get your brother fireman the hell out of her stolen house." - Why is she stealing houses?
Seems to me everyone that this person obviously didn't make it past the 8th grade!
Oct 14, 2010 6:27 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
im actually really disturbed by the comments on this link it is just unreal how people can bash fireman so much i dont get it im sorry i have a job gulliversaliar obviously something is very screwed up in your head and your life there is not ONE DAMN reason myself or any other firefighter working for this department should be living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by and for your information gulliversaliar i got into this when i was 20 its been 7 years now so i guess im a freakin idiot right i could of been out there screwing off until i was 30 but i decided to work for pasco county and to have you and the rest of the public S**t in our face is disturbing i wish i knew who u were, carma is a BIT** and it will meet you sir.
Oct 14, 2010 7:02 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
This was an email sent by the writer of the article who "denies" her relation to John Gallagher. I sent a response asking how she calls herself a reporter, being one sided .... she responds back with this email, from her personal email! "states she can't get to her work email" .. but she read it? How can that be? Think she doesn't want it tracked by the St Pete Times!
Seems she is one sided? You be the judge!
Hello, This is Jodie Tillman, reporter with the St. Pete Times. I'm unable to send out e-mails from my company account at the moment but thought your message (and I'm assuming your blog post on the story) warranted an immediate response. In short, I have no idea what you are talking about. I am not in any way related to anyone at the county. I thought the story was fair to both sides, and I"m wondering if you actually read it. Thanks for the feedback.
Oct 14, 2010 7:35 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
wow makes you wonder why they actually do the job... to be put down by the public/dismissed by their own employer and no support from their own operations division..
all for the lowest pay around..
Oct 14, 2010 7:56 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
Because for alot of us its to late to leave and I love the guys I work with unless your a firefighter u dont understand that my guys are family and tommorow well get on our engine run our calls who knows it might b one of the a%+holes on here
Oct 14, 2010 8:04 PM
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gerry wrote:
Don't forget Sheriff Bob "firefighter" White said he could get the fire department 4 million dollars. He and Cochran hatched this idea some time back and what ever happened. With the 4 million White can save the department.... Your raises are easy..... What has Cochran done for the union now that they supported him? Lame duck I think...... Anyway, if you joined the Sheriff's office you all would have gotten everything you wanted..... NOT..... You guys do deserve more than the county has provided, and only when someone is badly hurt will they pony up....... Good luck.
Oct 14, 2010 8:25 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
also the paper forgot to tell you that the county has been using mandatory overtime list not for emergencies , but for a hidden type of staffing.. for problems they have been overlooking for years...
Oct 14, 2010 8:57 PM
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PCFR-D/P wrote:
Just an fyi to everyone. The R's and the F's that are placed on a red maltese cross (the firefighter symbol) on the outside of buildings is to inform firefighters that the building has a lightweight type construction roof or floor (R or F respectively). This was implemented because so many firefighters have DIED because of this type of construction. It is not some "New Scam".
Oct 14, 2010 9:10 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
Funny how 9/11/01 everyone loved Firefighters, now we are just thought of as money hording scum!
Oct 14, 2010 9:17 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
@GULLIVERSALIAR~ who the F*C@ do you think you are? you're trying to call people theives w/ no education? haven't seen you post your resume up here. as for your "dead sister" was she living in a mobile home smoking a cigarette in bed? The firefighter that, I'm an 1000% sure purchased her house legitimately, is now living in it b/c she/he probably couldn't pay their loan and it was forclosed on. You're ridiculous and you're making yourself look like a freaking idiot w/ the ignorant comments you're leaving. So why don't you logoff your stolen computer, sit down on your torn up couch, smoke the last of the meth or crack you probably have sitting in front of you, and try to get a little shut eye before you have to get out on the street and hook and hustle so you can buy your next fix. And when you overdose or YOUR trailer catches on fire be sure to call for the BRAVE MEN & WOMEN of PCFR to SAVE YOUR A$$!!!!!
Oct 14, 2010 9:55 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
To the people that are complaining about these brave men and women simply asking for the raises that they are due, not only under their contract, but simply for having the courage to do this dangerous job, think about how underpaid they are the next time they have to come lift your fat butt out of your recliner at 2am and they don't complain one time but instead show you respect. Why don't some of the citizens of Pasco take a look at the surrounding depts (Pinellas, Polk, Tampa, Hernando) at those salaries and their primo equipment and apparatuses that are FULLY staffed? They are far greater than that of Pasco. In fact I think the only dept getting paid lower is Gulfport (they have 1 station). And if you see firefighters driving around in nice vehicles it's probably b/c they work a 2nd or even 3rd job like 99% of firefighters do. Therefor if you're jealous of their nice vehicles get up off your butt and get at least 1 job!
Oct 14, 2010 10:11 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
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WOW!!! You have some imagination! You should consider a career in creative writing, maybe with tampabay.com. Exactly where do we keep this meth? I'm dying to hear this!! Sounds like you've been hitting some of that meth for yourself. You might want to go back and read what you wrote when you aren't baked and see how ridiculous you sound! I think people are logging on here for you to entertain them. I know I am. You are a complete and total idiot! C'mon, who's home catches fire more than once? YOURS!!! If that's true, it's probably because your dumb a$$ burns your own house down before the bank can foreclose on you. It's called insurance fraud... But I'm sure you already knew that.
Oct 14, 2010 11:29 PM
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DumbInPasco wrote:
It is as simple as this. The county commissioners and Gallagher do not care about public safety because you can not see it like you can in a park or library, or an aesthetically eye pleasing shopping plaza or gated community. Public safety doesn't assure the commissioners votes because they can pass it off to whoever is sheriff at the time. They keep Gallagher in because he gives them the justification to cut budget spending from all the departments while still investing money in real estate, reserve accounts and investment accounts. This is how they have done it for years and the general public (voters) are too stupid to see it. The commissioners have been banking on it and the voters have NOT failed them yet, so why change?Gallagher even pointed it out at the budget hearings when he stated the amounts they have cut from different areas while his bar graph showed them making "poor mouth" cuts in 2006 and 2007 when they got way more tax money than expected...
Oct 15, 2010 3:04 AM
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DumbInPasco wrote:
What they have not counted on is there are a few people who caught it. Unfortunately, it will require going through a lot of St. Pete Times article archives to locate the articles where commissioners bragged about the windfall taxes and then stated they needed to sock the extra dollars away for upcoming lean years.
Guess what. They didn't draw any money out to ease the budget burdens for the last few years, so where did the >30% cut from several areas of liability for 2006 and 2007 that Gallagher spoke of at the last budget meeting go? When they refuse to fund something or cut from different departments and then put millions of dollars into hurricane funds, or special reserves you have to watch that money. They move it around a year or two later then use it for something it was never intended to be used for. But, most voters in Pasco are just plain stupid and think county workers, deputies and firefighters are the ones ripping them off. What a joke!
Oct 15, 2010 3:17 AM
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aaaa wrote:
Pasco county fire fighters make way too much for how easy their jobs are. Sit around the station and wait for a fender bender to send t2 engins out and 6 people. It is also true that you can be a firefighter with a GED but I think that is the same with all local goverment.
Oct 15, 2010 6:25 AM
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Native Floridian wrote:
This is a really simply dilema. Chief Lopinto has assembled an under qualified and under educated command staff ( including him) to run this department. Wonder why the assistant chief position has not been filled for 6 months, it's because nobody wants to work for him and he is not going to allow someone with more education than him to enter his kingdom. The temporary assistant chief he has is a result of his personal relationship and not a profession one and everyone on the job knows it. As a result, they cannot not make sound decisions to advance to the future. By the time he finishs micro managing them, nothing get's done. Second, the county comissioners are full of crap. The can't fund public safety, but they fund a sports complex and other stupid ●●● ideas or spend their time changing zoning to benefit their contractor buddies. People need to remember this in a few weeks and vote them out.
Oct 15, 2010 7:38 AM
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pascoboyz wrote:
Hey cox... and the other fool.... you going to chime in on this before the election???? or just pass it along like you all do with everything else?
Oct 15, 2010 9:50 AM
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flrxfire wrote:
Seems to me this means more engines driving to each call. Even as a volunteer fire department we'd always try to get 3 or more to an engine.
Oct 15, 2010 9:54 AM
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pcff007 wrote:
@ aaaa
You should change your name to AAA because you must be drunk or or maybe just stupid. I challenge you to apply for a firefighter job anywhere in the country with just a GED. You will be disappointed. If are jobs are so easy and all we do is sit around and wait for fender benders, then every idiot like you would be one. Then we'd all be in trouble.
Oct 15, 2010 11:41 AM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
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Oct 15, 2010 11:51 AM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
Dear Gilliversaliar- WOW, it might be hard to believe my husband has worked for PCFR for almost a decade and doesn't even make 14 dollars an hour. Yet every third day he gets on his truck to help people like YOU. And get this he (like all)who attended college for this job. WOW! You COULDN'T cut it could you. I'm guessing 7th grade had you stumped by your comments on here. And we still dont have that hummer you talk of. But we do have an 826 dollar family insurance policy the county shoves down our mouths. Please know your facts before you open your trap. Oh and my husband would love to meet you for a beer some time on his day off. He said he will buy on his 13.97 hr job.....
Oct 15, 2010 12:07 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
@aaaa~ Firefighting is an EASY job, huh? I'm sure the job you have is difficult for you. I mean it's not easy trying to find the hamburger picture AND fries picture on the cash register all for the same order. Then you have to put both of those items in a bag. Whew! I know you're worn out at the end of your day. And I'm sure once you get your GED you'll be promoted to manager in no time! Good luck! We'll be pulling for ya!
Oct 15, 2010 12:12 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
I can't wait for November elections....Commissioners and Gallagher start packing your bags!!!!!!!!
Oct 15, 2010 12:14 PM
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flrxfire wrote:
I'm not sure where all these firefighter hating commenters are coming from, but am reminded of a saying from the 60'a - If you think cops are bad, next time you are being robbed, call a hippie. Damn few citizens would do what firefighters will for you in an emergency. If you doubt that, next time you need help, call one of these negative commenters.
Oct 15, 2010 12:18 PM
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pascoresident wrote:
Part of the reason the county now owes so much money on this is that they blew a few deadlines in the union negotiations, therefore are responsible for the penalties. Also, because they spent so much money that they purportedly didn't have fighting the union. All the firefighters are asking for is consideration. It's the county that needs to reorder it's priorities.
Oct 15, 2010 12:24 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
Im waiting capt grant why isnt this all over the news or are we gonna play nice because thats not workin is it
Oct 15, 2010 12:53 PM
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do_something81 wrote:
PCFR guys, GulliverSalliar, is some crazy woman from Tampa who thinks firefighters stalk her all the time. She likes to stir the pot on any story involving fire departments or firefighters. She also goes by Voxy and a few other aliases. Plainly put, she is certifiable, and anyone who follows the comments on the Times knows her well. She has numerous blogs about how the City of Tampa and Pasco county officials have harmed her and her family.
That said, I and my family as Pasco county residents support PCFR firefighters in your pursuit for more funding. We have your back but also feel as powerless to get the funds you deserve as you do. All I can really say is keep up the good fight; you are worth it.
Oct 15, 2010 12:56 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
hey pcff007, in st pete they keep it in the washing machine. Maybe you keep it in one of those convenient panels on your ninety gazillion dollar trucks that I pay for and you losers use to stalk citizens. Maybe it's in the back of your little thieving ambulance boxes. Could be anywhere. It's meth. Not exactly tough to hide. Now, pot. That would be tougher.
Oct 15, 2010 3:27 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
More threats from the thugs AND their wives. Who then perform ad hominem attacks. WHO PAID FOR YOUR DEGREE????????????? That's right. I did. Ask Spence Roberts who is living in my dead sister's house. You'll find him at Tampa Fire Dept. Ask his buddies out in Pasco who burned down my mother's home. And then go ahead and ask him who added accelerant to the stove top vent in my mother's next home. Ask that fat pig and then get back with me. You people are for the most part: TRASH. Anyone who can read KNOWS IT. Don't threaten me. Drive by my burning house. LOL. You've done it four times I can count so far.
Oct 15, 2010 3:34 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
No. I call you a THIEF because you ARE ONE. If you're not one than you are BLIND. Take your pick. The rest of us know what you are and more are catching on every day. Scam artists and thieves who set fires and steal homes. I wouldn't put my dead dog in the back of one of your death trap ambulances.
Oct 15, 2010 3:37 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
pcfirefighter, that's because you swine USED Sept 11, 2001 to ride the coattails of HEROES. They died. You're here. Playing the game. Don't go around fire expectin not to sweat. Really on the Red R's?>> Thanks for the info. Would they actually SEE THAT when the bldg was burning down? I'll ask around and verify that. I think it's creepy. How'd they figure that out in the past??
Oct 15, 2010 3:39 PM
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Yes, I've noticed that most of their second and third jobs involve the handyman and fix up of the homes they steal. GOT IT. Thanks. Of course he can't support himself on 13.97 an hour but if he was really working a FULL TIME JOB he wouldn't have time for ANOTHER ONE AND ANOTHER ONE. We're not stupid. You get a job. Not sitting home defending losers.
Oct 15, 2010 3:42 PM
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By Jodie Tillman, Times Staff Writer In Print: Friday, October 15, 2010
Pasco County taxpayers may be paying more for fire protection this year, but so far they are getting less for their money: Over the weekend, four engines began running with fewer firefighters.
That means those particular engines could roll up to scenes with just two firefighters on board — one fewer person than they have now and two fewer than a national standard for getting enough personnel on scene to battle structure fires quickly and safely.
Chief Anthony Lopinto said the decision to reduce crew sizes on four of the county's 21 engines results from this: The firefighters union is demanding merit raises that even the additional tax revenue won't cover.
The higher tax rate approved by county commissioners last month — $1.43 per $1,000 in taxable property, a 23-cent increase over last fiscal year — essentially kept the Fire Rescue Department whole, covering increased health and pension costs plus the costs of hiring 15 people to reduce overtime.
"I'm preparing for the fiscal reality of that," Lopinto said of the proposed union raises. "We did this early on so it's not drastic."
Firefighters gave up their merit increases last year. For this year, they propose getting only 60 percent of what they would be due if full raises were in place.
Union president Ralph Grant said that concession will save $223,225 in the first year and $480,000 in the second year.
He said officials jumped the gun on reducing crew sizes so soon; he said they could have waited until new hires come on to see if that reduces overtime costs enough to free up money to pay for everything.
The 15 new hires are expected to finish orientation by January. Another 14 new hires who are filling once-frozen vacancies will come on board this month.
"We're still trying to resolve the solutions," said Grant. "We are trying to work it out. What he's doing is pre-emptive."
Lopinto said county officials are still crunching the numbers to see how much the union's proposal will cost them. He also said he did not have a figure yet on how much the reduced crews on the four engines will save.
The engines with reduced crews include one from the station behind Kmart in New Port Richey and one from Centennial Road in east Pasco. The other two will be on a rotating basis, depending on how many firefighters call in sick on a particular day.
The main reason that experts say engines should be staffed with at least four people? The "two-in, two-out" rule.
That means two firefighters should not enter a burning building unless there are two more of them on the outside, ready to help if something goes wrong. If two firefighters have to wait for another truck to bring two partners, there could be a critical delay.
Under Lopinto's leadership, Pasco Fire Rescue had worked its way up from two workers per truck to three. The emphasis has been sending rescue cars and other support vehicles with the engines to get enough personnel on scene.
But requiring that every engine have three firefighters means dipping into overtime if enough firefighters are out sick or on vacation on any given shift. Officials will save money — in overtime salaries for up to four workers per shift — if they don't require three people on those four engines.
About 15 percent of the 47,000 calls each year to Pasco Fire Rescue are for fires. Traffic accidents would not require a backup engine to respond, Lopinto said.
If rescue cars can't get two more firefighters to a scene, Lopinto said the engine can call for backup from the closest station.
"What we'll expect is that they'll have the same number of people responding to the call," he said. "Is it preferable to have those people early on? Yes, it is. But we're dealing with financial realities."
Grant, the union president, said the potential delays — say, if backup help is on another call — aren't worth the savings. "We're dead set against it," he said.
Grant said the union is insisting on partial raises this year because Pasco firefighters are among the lowest paid in the area. Other county employees did not get raises, but Grant said, "They don't have a contract."
Grant said he told county administrator John Gallagher when they met for negotiations four months ago to plan on raises. "I told Mr. Gallagher to budget for it, and they didn't," he said. "We're trying to work with them."
County personnel director Barbara DeSimone said she's hoping administrators and the union can come to some sort of agreement in coming weeks. But she said raises are a tough sell in this economy.
Commissioners, she said, "aren't going to increase taxes to pay for raises."
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mes7709 wrote:
were demanding raises lopinto? really im pretty sure the county knew they screwed up and they were gonna have to pay us and you know what as a matter of fact i am DEMANDING my raise because im under paid over worked and pissed off i even stayed in this county you sir have a serious morale problem in your department and going on record saying things like that DOES NOT HELP. we have some of the best firefighters in the area i would put up against anyone this county needs to give us what we deserve and thats RESPECT! 2 man engines you gotta be kidding me
Oct 14, 2010 12:57 PM
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desert scorpion wrote:
Nice to see some austerity in county government. I am ready to accept any consequences.
Oct 14, 2010 1:11 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
pig. Now fire those thieving mobsters and HIRE PEOPLE who would be grateful for the job not these INGRATES who stalk people. Have people noted the big red Rs gracing bldgs?? They've got some NEW SCAM going.
Oct 14, 2010 1:52 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
Now beware of the "arsons" going up and/or the houses burning down while family is out and ONLY TWO GUYS THERE. Fine. We'll go back to the bucket brigades. It would be more effective and less THEFT would be committed. I am so sick to death of these thugs getting the only jobs they're able to get with GEDs besides picking up trash and then THIEVING. Screw them.
Oct 14, 2010 1:55 PM
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The Captain wrote:
Ah yes, the almighty "union".....
Oct 14, 2010 2:03 PM
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meatballredoo wrote:
Firefighters are like guns....when you need one, absolutely positively nothing else will do. I invest in quality guns, and am willing to invest in quality fire/EMS protection. Pay the fellas, and charge me the measley $.25 per thousand on my tax bill. For most of the rednecks reading this, that only amounts to $20 a year.
Oct 14, 2010 2:06 PM
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pascofailspublic wrote:
Paying more for less is a common acurance up here in 2002 2003 the county assessed Fire tax in 5 volunteer districts they merge back into the county and then left theM as unmanned stations some still to this day THATS PAYING ALOT FOR NOTHING.
The firefigthers aren't demanding the raise it was in the contract that the COUNTY agreed to SO GET IT RIGHT YOU KNEW. The dept fires liers
This county has no interest in public safty it was very apparent by the commissioners at the meeting with the sheriff it is apparent with the fire dept These guys are under paid, and work more hours then surrounding dept. And the citizens are the ones that suffer the most with: lack of manpower on scenes, long response times to calls, and a dept that lacks station, equipment, manpower,Specilized equipment and teams.
THIS COUNTY HAS A LONG HISTORY OF MISMANGMENT THATS STARTES AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. THIS KNEE JERK REDUCATION IN STAFFING IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT WILL END UP IN A TRAGEDY.
Oct 14, 2010 2:16 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
Pasco County Fire Fighters have been underpaid & mistreated since our inception of a professional fire/rescue organization. We started a union a few years to protect ourselves. Our working conditions have been extremely dangerous, ultimately making it less safe for the county's residents. Let me say that we are all grateful to have jobs and love what we do! That being said... The county and the firefighters agreed upon a contract which included merit raises. The county and the fire chief knew ahead of to budget for this but FAILED to do so! Last year firefighters voluntarily gave up their raises to help the county with the understanding that the next year they would budget for it like they were supposed to do in the first place. The county has had several opportunities to renegotiate this issue with the union but could not come to a resonable agreement. So now, because the county and fire chief can budget their money correctly they are taking it out on the public...(to be continued)
Oct 14, 2010 2:44 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
by short staffing engine companies which could affect the outcome of YOUR emergency. Whoever said said this staffing issue would only affect building fires is wrong. Cardiac and respiratory arrests, vehicle extrications, water rescues, brush fires, obese patients require an all hands on deck approach. There is no time to wait for more units to get to the scene. I didn't even include any kind of special rescue team, because we have none. You would have to wait over an hour for another dept. to come into our county, to do our work for us because we don't have the money. Nobody in PCFR is looking to become millionaires by doing this thankless job. We just want to be compensated fairly and comparably to every surrounding fire dept. Many very good firefighters, EMTs, and paramedics leave PCFR for other places because they pay much more and have better health benefits. It is not fair for the county to blame us firefighters for thier own faults! Commissioners, do your part and we'll do ours!
Oct 14, 2010 3:07 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
gulliversailer- I don't know where you get your information about our education standands, but I'll bet you have never met a firefighter with just a GED. We all go through fire academy and at least EMT school. Most now are paramedics so add that on. We all participate in continuing education year round after we are on the job and hold several state and national certifications. Oh, and it takes many more college classes to get promoted to driver, captain and chief. Most firefighters today have degrees in several fields because of the competition to even get promoted. So next time, before you go off on a subject that you have no clue what you are talking about, if you don't know, you better ask somebody!
Oct 14, 2010 3:21 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
BOOM!!! I'm out!
Oct 14, 2010 3:21 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
haha..eat that
Oct 14, 2010 3:55 PM
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smokeydabear wrote:
Pasco County hates its firefighters!
Oct 14, 2010 4:04 PM
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smokeydabear wrote:
Lopinto is a liar just like many other officers that work for Pasco fire rescue!
Oct 14, 2010 4:05 PM
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PCFR_Medic wrote:
Why cant the reporter put a little disclaimer at the end of every article saying "My reporting of this story is biased as John Gallagher is a member of my family through marriage"
Typical nonsense. People hate us anyways for whatever reason, I might as well not be below the poverty line doing it.
Oct 14, 2010 4:16 PM
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clhf wrote:
So sad to read all the negative comments posted towards the Firefighters of Pasco Co. These men & women put there lives on the line everyday for you and your family members. Try showing them a little respect. They do their job for little pay, all they are asking for is what they deserve. To bring home enough money to take care of their families and to be safe at work. That's not to much to ask for. I'm sure it is no less than what you would expect from your employer. When the day comes and you or one of your loved ones needs them, perhaps then you will realize the respect they deserve and give it to them.
Oct 14, 2010 5:28 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
Underpaid...... thats what pasco firefighters have dealt with for years... thats why out turnover rate is amazing. over 1000 in 10 years.. and its only a 400 man dept to start out with..Now they want to reduce engine sizes... humm lets see... how much is your parents or child worth if their life is in danger? I guess by the county's standards not much.. because now you will get "green" people and not enough of them to make a change.. A year ago they cheated the ISO rating by staffing some stations with people that wont be fighting fire/ or accident mitigation .. ie chiefs and air trucks just to meet the ISO's Staffing requirements... Just another example of cheating to get by..So what the heck.. keep it going.. cheat the public's safety to get by huh? well Mr/Mrs public... prepare for longer response times/ less service/ decreased chances of survival/ and increased insurance premiums when the insurance companies get ahold of this info...sleep safe
Oct 14, 2010 5:30 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
maybe someone should ask why station 39 ( next to Lapino's house) got built before other stations that were set to be built..bumped to the front of the line.. wouldnt have anything to do with lowering his insurance rates would it??? nawww
and for grant.... 3% WTF??? after years of hearing their underpaid.. and selling to give up a raise... you come back at them with 3%....Just makes you wonder why the moral in this department is at a all time low..
If no one fights for the fire department..... what exactly makes you think they will risk everything and fight for you....
and Tillman, next time your at a family function.. lean over and ask Gallagher exactly what he wants you to write next time..
fair reporting my A$$
sleep tight pasco,, because if it was up to them you truly would be on your own
Oct 14, 2010 5:43 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
because for the most part they are thieves. Prove it pasco firefighter. Your degrees come from SPC or HCC or PHCC and are more aptly called certificates or associate's degrees. puleeze. No. You guys are pushy, egotistical, disgusting THIEVES. Stuff it. We really don't need you as much as you idiots have convinced yourselves we do. and lopinto is an outright thief. And likely a crack dealer living on top of the station like that. Who DOES THAT?Were you guys so happy with bob blackburn due to his facility in taking out victims you couldn't quite snow? People are ON TO YOU. Drive by my burning house. Not like you haven't done it ALREADY. More than once. And one of you living in one of them now. YOU don't have ANY clue what you are talking about OR more likely: just lying.
Oct 14, 2010 6:05 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
The veiled threats: as usual : from pascoboyz: sleep safe. sleep tight. If you guys didn't waste so much taxpayers' money STALKING PEOPLE and carting meth around to build your find houses and buy your gd hummers people wouldn't have caught on so fast. You're not heroes. You're barely human. Look at yourself in the mirror and SEE WHAT YOU ARE. Or ask my dead sister. And get your brother fireman the hell out of her stolen house.
Oct 14, 2010 6:08 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
@gulliversaliarYou must be related to John Gallagher & Jodie Tillman or maybe you are one of the 2 listed? I am a Firefighter with Pasco County Fire Rescue, and I am proud of it. I myself hold 2 degrees, 1 in EMS and 1 in Fire Science, and both are 4 year degrees. You call us "thieves"? Why is that? because we want to make considerable pay for the work we do? How much is your life worth? How much is the members of you families lives worth? We could down right put in place what they do in an area in TN were you pay for services or they don't come. Would you like that? Do you think operations are free? Do I have the right to provide to my family? feed them? provide them with shelter? I do believe so. You are ignorant my friend. Obviously you have something bad in your past, were you didn't get your college education and someone got a GED and passed college and got a Fire Dept Job. My god have mercy on your soul ... for your comments, KARMA will bite you in the ●●●!
Oct 14, 2010 6:14 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
@ the St Pete Times
I would like to say, I am proud to see the word out, but sad that it was reported wrongfully. How could you let this reporter who is family to John Gallagher writete this article?
St Pete Times, I would like to see some reaction to our concerns!
Oct 14, 2010 6:17 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
I am a firefighter with Pasco County. Proud of what I do, and make sure every day that when I go on duty I do the best job possible regardless of my pay or crew size. I am worried though for the safety of myself, my fellow brothers and sisters, my family who lives in the county and all other citizens of Pasco County. How can you, as residents of the county approve of such disregard to your safety by the commissioners of this county? I don't know what its going to take, maybe a death or serious injury of someone to turn on the light bulb so you can see what's happening. I am personally sicken by our operation dept and our union that they let this go on.
Please County Residents, call, write, email or show up to the county building and let your voices be heard on this!
Oct 14, 2010 6:22 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
@gulliversaliar
Make yourself known! Put your real name out there .. show your face! Don't put your lies about your "dead sister" on here!
As for meth, your are off your rocker!
"And get your brother fireman the hell out of her stolen house." - Why is she stealing houses?
Seems to me everyone that this person obviously didn't make it past the 8th grade!
Oct 14, 2010 6:27 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
im actually really disturbed by the comments on this link it is just unreal how people can bash fireman so much i dont get it im sorry i have a job gulliversaliar obviously something is very screwed up in your head and your life there is not ONE DAMN reason myself or any other firefighter working for this department should be living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by and for your information gulliversaliar i got into this when i was 20 its been 7 years now so i guess im a freakin idiot right i could of been out there screwing off until i was 30 but i decided to work for pasco county and to have you and the rest of the public S**t in our face is disturbing i wish i knew who u were, carma is a BIT** and it will meet you sir.
Oct 14, 2010 7:02 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
This was an email sent by the writer of the article who "denies" her relation to John Gallagher. I sent a response asking how she calls herself a reporter, being one sided .... she responds back with this email, from her personal email! "states she can't get to her work email" .. but she read it? How can that be? Think she doesn't want it tracked by the St Pete Times!
Seems she is one sided? You be the judge!
Hello, This is Jodie Tillman, reporter with the St. Pete Times. I'm unable to send out e-mails from my company account at the moment but thought your message (and I'm assuming your blog post on the story) warranted an immediate response. In short, I have no idea what you are talking about. I am not in any way related to anyone at the county. I thought the story was fair to both sides, and I"m wondering if you actually read it. Thanks for the feedback.
Oct 14, 2010 7:35 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
wow makes you wonder why they actually do the job... to be put down by the public/dismissed by their own employer and no support from their own operations division..
all for the lowest pay around..
Oct 14, 2010 7:56 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
Because for alot of us its to late to leave and I love the guys I work with unless your a firefighter u dont understand that my guys are family and tommorow well get on our engine run our calls who knows it might b one of the a%+holes on here
Oct 14, 2010 8:04 PM
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gerry wrote:
Don't forget Sheriff Bob "firefighter" White said he could get the fire department 4 million dollars. He and Cochran hatched this idea some time back and what ever happened. With the 4 million White can save the department.... Your raises are easy..... What has Cochran done for the union now that they supported him? Lame duck I think...... Anyway, if you joined the Sheriff's office you all would have gotten everything you wanted..... NOT..... You guys do deserve more than the county has provided, and only when someone is badly hurt will they pony up....... Good luck.
Oct 14, 2010 8:25 PM
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pascoboyz wrote:
also the paper forgot to tell you that the county has been using mandatory overtime list not for emergencies , but for a hidden type of staffing.. for problems they have been overlooking for years...
Oct 14, 2010 8:57 PM
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PCFR-D/P wrote:
Just an fyi to everyone. The R's and the F's that are placed on a red maltese cross (the firefighter symbol) on the outside of buildings is to inform firefighters that the building has a lightweight type construction roof or floor (R or F respectively). This was implemented because so many firefighters have DIED because of this type of construction. It is not some "New Scam".
Oct 14, 2010 9:10 PM
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PCFirefighter wrote:
Funny how 9/11/01 everyone loved Firefighters, now we are just thought of as money hording scum!
Oct 14, 2010 9:17 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
@GULLIVERSALIAR~ who the F*C@ do you think you are? you're trying to call people theives w/ no education? haven't seen you post your resume up here. as for your "dead sister" was she living in a mobile home smoking a cigarette in bed? The firefighter that, I'm an 1000% sure purchased her house legitimately, is now living in it b/c she/he probably couldn't pay their loan and it was forclosed on. You're ridiculous and you're making yourself look like a freaking idiot w/ the ignorant comments you're leaving. So why don't you logoff your stolen computer, sit down on your torn up couch, smoke the last of the meth or crack you probably have sitting in front of you, and try to get a little shut eye before you have to get out on the street and hook and hustle so you can buy your next fix. And when you overdose or YOUR trailer catches on fire be sure to call for the BRAVE MEN & WOMEN of PCFR to SAVE YOUR A$$!!!!!
Oct 14, 2010 9:55 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
To the people that are complaining about these brave men and women simply asking for the raises that they are due, not only under their contract, but simply for having the courage to do this dangerous job, think about how underpaid they are the next time they have to come lift your fat butt out of your recliner at 2am and they don't complain one time but instead show you respect. Why don't some of the citizens of Pasco take a look at the surrounding depts (Pinellas, Polk, Tampa, Hernando) at those salaries and their primo equipment and apparatuses that are FULLY staffed? They are far greater than that of Pasco. In fact I think the only dept getting paid lower is Gulfport (they have 1 station). And if you see firefighters driving around in nice vehicles it's probably b/c they work a 2nd or even 3rd job like 99% of firefighters do. Therefor if you're jealous of their nice vehicles get up off your butt and get at least 1 job!
Oct 14, 2010 10:11 PM
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pcff007 wrote:
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WOW!!! You have some imagination! You should consider a career in creative writing, maybe with tampabay.com. Exactly where do we keep this meth? I'm dying to hear this!! Sounds like you've been hitting some of that meth for yourself. You might want to go back and read what you wrote when you aren't baked and see how ridiculous you sound! I think people are logging on here for you to entertain them. I know I am. You are a complete and total idiot! C'mon, who's home catches fire more than once? YOURS!!! If that's true, it's probably because your dumb a$$ burns your own house down before the bank can foreclose on you. It's called insurance fraud... But I'm sure you already knew that.
Oct 14, 2010 11:29 PM
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DumbInPasco wrote:
It is as simple as this. The county commissioners and Gallagher do not care about public safety because you can not see it like you can in a park or library, or an aesthetically eye pleasing shopping plaza or gated community. Public safety doesn't assure the commissioners votes because they can pass it off to whoever is sheriff at the time. They keep Gallagher in because he gives them the justification to cut budget spending from all the departments while still investing money in real estate, reserve accounts and investment accounts. This is how they have done it for years and the general public (voters) are too stupid to see it. The commissioners have been banking on it and the voters have NOT failed them yet, so why change?Gallagher even pointed it out at the budget hearings when he stated the amounts they have cut from different areas while his bar graph showed them making "poor mouth" cuts in 2006 and 2007 when they got way more tax money than expected...
Oct 15, 2010 3:04 AM
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DumbInPasco wrote:
What they have not counted on is there are a few people who caught it. Unfortunately, it will require going through a lot of St. Pete Times article archives to locate the articles where commissioners bragged about the windfall taxes and then stated they needed to sock the extra dollars away for upcoming lean years.
Guess what. They didn't draw any money out to ease the budget burdens for the last few years, so where did the >30% cut from several areas of liability for 2006 and 2007 that Gallagher spoke of at the last budget meeting go? When they refuse to fund something or cut from different departments and then put millions of dollars into hurricane funds, or special reserves you have to watch that money. They move it around a year or two later then use it for something it was never intended to be used for. But, most voters in Pasco are just plain stupid and think county workers, deputies and firefighters are the ones ripping them off. What a joke!
Oct 15, 2010 3:17 AM
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aaaa wrote:
Pasco county fire fighters make way too much for how easy their jobs are. Sit around the station and wait for a fender bender to send t2 engins out and 6 people. It is also true that you can be a firefighter with a GED but I think that is the same with all local goverment.
Oct 15, 2010 6:25 AM
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Native Floridian wrote:
This is a really simply dilema. Chief Lopinto has assembled an under qualified and under educated command staff ( including him) to run this department. Wonder why the assistant chief position has not been filled for 6 months, it's because nobody wants to work for him and he is not going to allow someone with more education than him to enter his kingdom. The temporary assistant chief he has is a result of his personal relationship and not a profession one and everyone on the job knows it. As a result, they cannot not make sound decisions to advance to the future. By the time he finishs micro managing them, nothing get's done. Second, the county comissioners are full of crap. The can't fund public safety, but they fund a sports complex and other stupid ●●● ideas or spend their time changing zoning to benefit their contractor buddies. People need to remember this in a few weeks and vote them out.
Oct 15, 2010 7:38 AM
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pascoboyz wrote:
Hey cox... and the other fool.... you going to chime in on this before the election???? or just pass it along like you all do with everything else?
Oct 15, 2010 9:50 AM
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flrxfire wrote:
Seems to me this means more engines driving to each call. Even as a volunteer fire department we'd always try to get 3 or more to an engine.
Oct 15, 2010 9:54 AM
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pcff007 wrote:
@ aaaa
You should change your name to AAA because you must be drunk or or maybe just stupid. I challenge you to apply for a firefighter job anywhere in the country with just a GED. You will be disappointed. If are jobs are so easy and all we do is sit around and wait for fender benders, then every idiot like you would be one. Then we'd all be in trouble.
Oct 15, 2010 11:41 AM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
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Oct 15, 2010 11:51 AM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
Dear Gilliversaliar- WOW, it might be hard to believe my husband has worked for PCFR for almost a decade and doesn't even make 14 dollars an hour. Yet every third day he gets on his truck to help people like YOU. And get this he (like all)who attended college for this job. WOW! You COULDN'T cut it could you. I'm guessing 7th grade had you stumped by your comments on here. And we still dont have that hummer you talk of. But we do have an 826 dollar family insurance policy the county shoves down our mouths. Please know your facts before you open your trap. Oh and my husband would love to meet you for a beer some time on his day off. He said he will buy on his 13.97 hr job.....
Oct 15, 2010 12:07 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
@aaaa~ Firefighting is an EASY job, huh? I'm sure the job you have is difficult for you. I mean it's not easy trying to find the hamburger picture AND fries picture on the cash register all for the same order. Then you have to put both of those items in a bag. Whew! I know you're worn out at the end of your day. And I'm sure once you get your GED you'll be promoted to manager in no time! Good luck! We'll be pulling for ya!
Oct 15, 2010 12:12 PM
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pcfrsupporter wrote:
I can't wait for November elections....Commissioners and Gallagher start packing your bags!!!!!!!!
Oct 15, 2010 12:14 PM
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flrxfire wrote:
I'm not sure where all these firefighter hating commenters are coming from, but am reminded of a saying from the 60'a - If you think cops are bad, next time you are being robbed, call a hippie. Damn few citizens would do what firefighters will for you in an emergency. If you doubt that, next time you need help, call one of these negative commenters.
Oct 15, 2010 12:18 PM
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pascoresident wrote:
Part of the reason the county now owes so much money on this is that they blew a few deadlines in the union negotiations, therefore are responsible for the penalties. Also, because they spent so much money that they purportedly didn't have fighting the union. All the firefighters are asking for is consideration. It's the county that needs to reorder it's priorities.
Oct 15, 2010 12:24 PM
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mes7709 wrote:
Im waiting capt grant why isnt this all over the news or are we gonna play nice because thats not workin is it
Oct 15, 2010 12:53 PM
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do_something81 wrote:
PCFR guys, GulliverSalliar, is some crazy woman from Tampa who thinks firefighters stalk her all the time. She likes to stir the pot on any story involving fire departments or firefighters. She also goes by Voxy and a few other aliases. Plainly put, she is certifiable, and anyone who follows the comments on the Times knows her well. She has numerous blogs about how the City of Tampa and Pasco county officials have harmed her and her family.
That said, I and my family as Pasco county residents support PCFR firefighters in your pursuit for more funding. We have your back but also feel as powerless to get the funds you deserve as you do. All I can really say is keep up the good fight; you are worth it.
Oct 15, 2010 12:56 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
hey pcff007, in st pete they keep it in the washing machine. Maybe you keep it in one of those convenient panels on your ninety gazillion dollar trucks that I pay for and you losers use to stalk citizens. Maybe it's in the back of your little thieving ambulance boxes. Could be anywhere. It's meth. Not exactly tough to hide. Now, pot. That would be tougher.
Oct 15, 2010 3:27 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
More threats from the thugs AND their wives. Who then perform ad hominem attacks. WHO PAID FOR YOUR DEGREE????????????? That's right. I did. Ask Spence Roberts who is living in my dead sister's house. You'll find him at Tampa Fire Dept. Ask his buddies out in Pasco who burned down my mother's home. And then go ahead and ask him who added accelerant to the stove top vent in my mother's next home. Ask that fat pig and then get back with me. You people are for the most part: TRASH. Anyone who can read KNOWS IT. Don't threaten me. Drive by my burning house. LOL. You've done it four times I can count so far.
Oct 15, 2010 3:34 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
No. I call you a THIEF because you ARE ONE. If you're not one than you are BLIND. Take your pick. The rest of us know what you are and more are catching on every day. Scam artists and thieves who set fires and steal homes. I wouldn't put my dead dog in the back of one of your death trap ambulances.
Oct 15, 2010 3:37 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
pcfirefighter, that's because you swine USED Sept 11, 2001 to ride the coattails of HEROES. They died. You're here. Playing the game. Don't go around fire expectin not to sweat. Really on the Red R's?>> Thanks for the info. Would they actually SEE THAT when the bldg was burning down? I'll ask around and verify that. I think it's creepy. How'd they figure that out in the past??
Oct 15, 2010 3:39 PM
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gulliversaliar wrote:
Yes, I've noticed that most of their second and third jobs involve the handyman and fix up of the homes they steal. GOT IT. Thanks. Of course he can't support himself on 13.97 an hour but if he was really working a FULL TIME JOB he wouldn't have time for ANOTHER ONE AND ANOTHER ONE. We're not stupid. You get a job. Not sitting home defending losers.
Oct 15, 2010 3:42 PM
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Sunday, September 12, 2010
Tampa FIRE PIGS and Sept 11 2001 in 2010
Spence, what happened to your ya5lk TAG????????
PIGS !! Look, everyone is catching on. LOL.
Incidentally, with all your GED_efforts, you're just proving my case for me.
Allow me to take this opportunity to thank your dumb fuck disgusting pig asses.
Did Spence Roberts the arsonist/murderer/Tampa Fireman get to salute?
At Tampa's Sept. 11 ceremonies, a call for unity and patriotism
By Nandini Jayakrishna, Times Staff Writer In Print: Sunday, September 12, 2010
Bob Brinley, center, wears stars and stripes as he salutes the flag along with firefighters, police, paramedics, veterans motorcycle clubs and others at the Tampa Convention Center on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.
TAMPA
Anthony Corte went for his father, two uncles and 26 friends.
All of them responded to the burning World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001. None of them came back.
"Just don't forget," Corte said under a scorching Saturday sun at Tampa Fire Rescue's Station No. 15.
He was there to join in a ceremony commemorating the ninth anniversary of the terrorist attacks. "Keep the spirit and the patriotism we had that day in our hearts," he said.
In what was one of several events around the region, Corte, 37, of Bloomingdale and nearly 60 other former and current law enforcement and military members paid homage to a flag hoisted atop a fire truck.
The flag had been flown over ground zero in New York City by an organization called the Post 911 Foundation.
They observed a moment of silence to remember the lives lost on Sept. 11. They called it Patriot Day.
Several motorcycle rides and events were held Saturday by groups such as AMVETS Post 44 in Brandon and the Post 911 Foundation.
In a noon ceremony, a foundation member presented the flag atop Fire Truck 15 to Mayor Pam Iorio at the Tampa Convention Center.
The presentation was part of the national Follow the Flag campaign meant to reignite the spirit of patriotism.
Accepting the flag on behalf of the city, Iorio said she was proud of all the first responders, not just the ones in New York on Sept. 11, but also those in Tampa. The latter, she said, would act just as bravely in times of crisis. THIS IS JUST FUCKING FUNNY!
"And that's why on 9/11 we should never forget," she said. "The title we cherish the most is that of American citizens."
At the Convention Center ceremony, Mark Kijas, 54, who works as a security consultant, said he had already attended three commemorative events that morning.
"I'll do it until I drop," he said.
Kijas, who was about 3 miles from the north tower when it was hit by a hijacked plane on Sept. 11, 2001, said he and many other civilians rushed to the scene to help.
"I never though I would run down there," said Kijas, who was a security director at Oxygen Media, a women's cable network, at the time. "I just did it. You get caught up in the moment and your emotion takes over. We just went down there to do what we could."
Kijas said he knew 42 people—police officers, firefighters, security personnel and civilians — who died as the towers tumbled.
Now is the time, he said, for the country to overcome political and religious barriers to unite as Americans.
"People are forgetting what's important," he said.
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Ace wrote:
Great to hear about these ceremonies & the thoughts and actions regarding 9-11-2001. I do think more coverage would have been appropriate, including info about the agenda beforehand. Just MHO.
Sep 12, 2010 6:25 AM
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KaPueo wrote:
I think the country is united on most issues. Unfortunately, our president is not part of that union.
Sep 12, 2010 7:29 AM
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monstersdoexist wrote:
Let me finish the sentence quoted from above story...."Now is the time, he said, for the country to overcome political and religious barriers to unite as Americans ...against those rottenbaztardz that did this to us and continue to flaunt their sick sharia laws in the worlds' face" !
Sep 12, 2010 7:50 AM
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ttuttle wrote:
Kind of reminiscent of the late days of the Weimar Republic if you ask me.
Sep 12, 2010 7:54 AM
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ttuttle wrote:
True patriots would have burned the USAPATRIOT Act yesterday.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, never was that more true than in America today.
Sep 12, 2010 8:30 AM
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Justalittledrunk wrote:
smells like cordite.
Sep 12, 2010 9:20 AM
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Gaius Baltar wrote:
@ttuttle: And during the last days of the Weimar Republic, the German right concocted lies about history and liberals, and scapegoated religious minorities to whip the pubic into a frenzy of fear.
Sound familiar? You betcha!
Sep 12, 2010 9:33 AM
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ttuttle wrote:
RE: Gaius Baltar
Since they already have their brownshirts in the neocon Republican co-opted (formerly anti-interventionist libertarian) tea party movement, their Goebbels in Herr Beck and the basis for their coming movement (internment of Muslims see Michelle Malkin) all that they are awating is their fuhrer or fuhress.
This is horrifying to watch, is the pledge of allegiance to 9/11 next?
TT
Sep 12, 2010 9:40 AM
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p_eunny wrote:
If you want the truth about 9/11 look to the last man standing..
As far as I am concerned...Bu-cheny has the blood on their hands
Last man standing hold a lot of truth...sic
Sep 12, 2010 10:47 AM
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palinsbackporch wrote:
What scumbags. How ironic I caught them FROM STATION 15 stalking my family twice yesterday. Shot them a big fat bird. Yep. That was me.
Sep 12, 2010 2:45 PM
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palinsbackporch wrote:
Interesting that EACH of these flag-waving groups have profited from the horror of Sept. 11, 2001 by receiving HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY to buy crap with from the Dept. of Homeland Security. The firefighters used their cut to begin stalking citizens. Riding the coattails of DEATH of the heroic firefighters. YOU DISGUST ME. But I know that does not bother you.
Sep 12, 2010 2:52 PM
ttuttle wrote:
Yes, not that I am especially fond of the Washington Post but they had a series, Top Secret America about a month or so back that went into just how much these greedy pig corporations have been selling all of this fascist surveillance crap on our tax dollars to local agencies etc. It's a monstrous boondoggle yet all of these armchair patriots could give a rat's ●●●● about how the country is being bankrupted by the fearmongers and the useful idiots who wrap themselves in the flag and salute while their children are forced through naked body scanners in the airports, and soon to be coming to shopping malls, all at taxpayer expense.
These buffoons all claim to have problems with big government but when it's being used to spy on citizens, militarize the police and build a massive for profit prison gulag they are silent.
This country is a very disgusting place right now.
TT
PIGS !! Look, everyone is catching on. LOL.
Incidentally, with all your GED_efforts, you're just proving my case for me.
Allow me to take this opportunity to thank your dumb fuck disgusting pig asses.
Did Spence Roberts the arsonist/murderer/Tampa Fireman get to salute?
At Tampa's Sept. 11 ceremonies, a call for unity and patriotism
By Nandini Jayakrishna, Times Staff Writer In Print: Sunday, September 12, 2010
Bob Brinley, center, wears stars and stripes as he salutes the flag along with firefighters, police, paramedics, veterans motorcycle clubs and others at the Tampa Convention Center on the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.
TAMPA
Anthony Corte went for his father, two uncles and 26 friends.
All of them responded to the burning World Trade Center towers on Sept. 11, 2001. None of them came back.
"Just don't forget," Corte said under a scorching Saturday sun at Tampa Fire Rescue's Station No. 15.
He was there to join in a ceremony commemorating the ninth anniversary of the terrorist attacks. "Keep the spirit and the patriotism we had that day in our hearts," he said.
In what was one of several events around the region, Corte, 37, of Bloomingdale and nearly 60 other former and current law enforcement and military members paid homage to a flag hoisted atop a fire truck.
The flag had been flown over ground zero in New York City by an organization called the Post 911 Foundation.
They observed a moment of silence to remember the lives lost on Sept. 11. They called it Patriot Day.
Several motorcycle rides and events were held Saturday by groups such as AMVETS Post 44 in Brandon and the Post 911 Foundation.
In a noon ceremony, a foundation member presented the flag atop Fire Truck 15 to Mayor Pam Iorio at the Tampa Convention Center.
The presentation was part of the national Follow the Flag campaign meant to reignite the spirit of patriotism.
Accepting the flag on behalf of the city, Iorio said she was proud of all the first responders, not just the ones in New York on Sept. 11, but also those in Tampa. The latter, she said, would act just as bravely in times of crisis. THIS IS JUST FUCKING FUNNY!
"And that's why on 9/11 we should never forget," she said. "The title we cherish the most is that of American citizens."
At the Convention Center ceremony, Mark Kijas, 54, who works as a security consultant, said he had already attended three commemorative events that morning.
"I'll do it until I drop," he said.
Kijas, who was about 3 miles from the north tower when it was hit by a hijacked plane on Sept. 11, 2001, said he and many other civilians rushed to the scene to help.
"I never though I would run down there," said Kijas, who was a security director at Oxygen Media, a women's cable network, at the time. "I just did it. You get caught up in the moment and your emotion takes over. We just went down there to do what we could."
Kijas said he knew 42 people—police officers, firefighters, security personnel and civilians — who died as the towers tumbled.
Now is the time, he said, for the country to overcome political and religious barriers to unite as Americans.
"People are forgetting what's important," he said.
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Ace wrote:
Great to hear about these ceremonies & the thoughts and actions regarding 9-11-2001. I do think more coverage would have been appropriate, including info about the agenda beforehand. Just MHO.
Sep 12, 2010 6:25 AM
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KaPueo wrote:
I think the country is united on most issues. Unfortunately, our president is not part of that union.
Sep 12, 2010 7:29 AM
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monstersdoexist wrote:
Let me finish the sentence quoted from above story...."Now is the time, he said, for the country to overcome political and religious barriers to unite as Americans ...against those rottenbaztardz that did this to us and continue to flaunt their sick sharia laws in the worlds' face" !
Sep 12, 2010 7:50 AM
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ttuttle wrote:
Kind of reminiscent of the late days of the Weimar Republic if you ask me.
Sep 12, 2010 7:54 AM
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ttuttle wrote:
True patriots would have burned the USAPATRIOT Act yesterday.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, never was that more true than in America today.
Sep 12, 2010 8:30 AM
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Justalittledrunk wrote:
smells like cordite.
Sep 12, 2010 9:20 AM
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Gaius Baltar wrote:
@ttuttle: And during the last days of the Weimar Republic, the German right concocted lies about history and liberals, and scapegoated religious minorities to whip the pubic into a frenzy of fear.
Sound familiar? You betcha!
Sep 12, 2010 9:33 AM
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ttuttle wrote:
RE: Gaius Baltar
Since they already have their brownshirts in the neocon Republican co-opted (formerly anti-interventionist libertarian) tea party movement, their Goebbels in Herr Beck and the basis for their coming movement (internment of Muslims see Michelle Malkin) all that they are awating is their fuhrer or fuhress.
This is horrifying to watch, is the pledge of allegiance to 9/11 next?
TT
Sep 12, 2010 9:40 AM
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p_eunny wrote:
If you want the truth about 9/11 look to the last man standing..
As far as I am concerned...Bu-cheny has the blood on their hands
Last man standing hold a lot of truth...sic
Sep 12, 2010 10:47 AM
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palinsbackporch wrote:
What scumbags. How ironic I caught them FROM STATION 15 stalking my family twice yesterday. Shot them a big fat bird. Yep. That was me.
Sep 12, 2010 2:45 PM
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Thank you for your vote
palinsbackporch wrote:
Interesting that EACH of these flag-waving groups have profited from the horror of Sept. 11, 2001 by receiving HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY to buy crap with from the Dept. of Homeland Security. The firefighters used their cut to begin stalking citizens. Riding the coattails of DEATH of the heroic firefighters. YOU DISGUST ME. But I know that does not bother you.
Sep 12, 2010 2:52 PM
ttuttle wrote:
Yes, not that I am especially fond of the Washington Post but they had a series, Top Secret America about a month or so back that went into just how much these greedy pig corporations have been selling all of this fascist surveillance crap on our tax dollars to local agencies etc. It's a monstrous boondoggle yet all of these armchair patriots could give a rat's ●●●● about how the country is being bankrupted by the fearmongers and the useful idiots who wrap themselves in the flag and salute while their children are forced through naked body scanners in the airports, and soon to be coming to shopping malls, all at taxpayer expense.
These buffoons all claim to have problems with big government but when it's being used to spy on citizens, militarize the police and build a massive for profit prison gulag they are silent.
This country is a very disgusting place right now.
TT
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